Now you're infected by the Musical Doodle
And my point is that the only way I've ever seen it appear on a statblock is the hit-grapple one, and I guess a few have a saving throw. The contested check just isn't a mechanic that I've seen them actually using on a monster statblock.My point was the grapple rules are general and all monsters and PC can use them.
Yes, there are monsters use only effect on a hit is to grapple, I was not disputing that. Again, that is only a small handful of monsters, it was not a general rule for monsters. That is the point