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Only Five Races in PHB2?

garyh

First Post
I didn't see anyone mention this, but according to this GenCon blurb:

March: Player's Handbook II, with eight new classes, five new races, and the primal power source.

I could have sworn we were getting 8 races in PHB2. From the compiled race / class info thread:

Gnomes, Half-Orcs, Goliaths, and Shifters will be in the PHB2. There will also be a race that starts with a D, and a race (possibly the same one) that has a second letter of E.

Combining the new blurb and the compiled info, it sounds like we know 4/5ths of the PHB2 races, and the last race is De_______. Unless, of course, the GenCon info is wrong, which I really hope, since I want more races as fast as possible.
 

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garyh

First Post
Unless it's a new (or renamed) race, I actually don't know what de____ could be BUT derro.

I thought we were getting shadar-kai in PHB2, also. But they're probably being held for the PHB that includes shadow now.

I want more than five races in the PHB2!
 


doctorhook

Adventurer
On the WotC boards, the two most popular guesses for the "DE" race are:

  • "Deva", one of the names being suggested for 4E's version of aasimar.
  • "Doppelganger", (Changeling), which assumes that the leak of "second letter E" was an error.
Both are solid guesses, and both are races that are likely to see publication sooner rather than later, because of their versatility.
 

Anguirus

First Post
I hope the GenCon blurb is in error. 8 races and 8 classes isn't just crunchy goodness, it's symmetry. I thought all the PHBs would have "8 and 8."
 


Engilbrand

First Post
Destrachan?
Seriously, though, I like Deva. It seems to fit. They took the Eladrin and turned them into an Elven race. Why not take the Deva and turn it into an Angelic race?
 



doctorhook

Adventurer
Deurgar.

Whatever it is, I won't like it.
It's spelled "Duergar", and no, that seems unlikely at this point.

Duergar in 4E are a type of dwarven devil. Mortal, native to the world, and otherwise "natural" humanoids, just like other dwarves, but racially fiendish thanks to a long history of breeding with devils. Instead of Moradin, Duergar generally worship Asmodeus. Thematically, you can think of Duergar as a dwarven equivalent to Tieflings, except completely different in appearance, substantially more evil than the average Tiefling, and possessing the (devil) subtype. (The MM-style write-up for Duergar appears in H2, but will hopefully be reprinted in a real Monster Manual eventually.)

Why won't you like it, (whatever it is), Kzach? You don't like Angels? You don't like Changelings?
 



Lizard

First Post
I can definitely live with "only" five more races, esp. if two of them are "Gnome" and "Half-Orc". It's a LOT easier for me to integrate new classes into the world than new races. After all, it's pretty easy to say that the NPC who used to be Rogue with a rapier is now a Swashbuckler and, retroactively, always was; it's more of a pain to fit entire new nations into the world's history and explain where these people were and why you never noticed them before. Hardly impossible, of course, and when starting a new campaign, it's always good to have a large "palette" of races to choose from, but for the PHB II (or any splat) to have value, it ought to be just as useful for an ongoing campaign as for a new one.
 

Zsig

Explorer
Remember that there are at least 2 kinds of shifters, so even though they're all still one race, they each get different stats and racial encounter powers.
 



jedrious

First Post
which is an extremely odd statement because they have been seen in one adventure and one monster manual, if anything it's the Thrikreen that's been pushed appearing as a monster manual entry and two separate racial traits profiles, let's go even futher, WotC has been pushing Dragons on us for years, I mean it's not like they have anything to do with the game
 


garyh

First Post
Remember that there are at least 2 kinds of shifters, so even though they're all still one race, they each get different stats and racial encounter powers.

Yeah, but, I dunno... that seems kinda cheat-y for taking up to slots. Then again, 3/8ths of PHB1 were different kinds of elves...

DE for...

Deadite.
..because they need an undead PC race.

I doubt it, but I'd love to see that happen. I wouldn't even mind if people claimed PC undead were video-gamey and imported from WarCraft. :)
 

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