Only the Lonely: Why We Demand Official Product

[billd91]

I thought GH had all the elf varieties.

Valley elves, grugach, wood elves, grey elves, high elves, drow, aquatic elves... but sun elf is the Forgotten Realms term for a high elf. So yes, and no on GH having all elf varieties. They have pretty much all of them, but not necessarily using the same terms.

 

[jmucchiello]

Grey elves. Of course. That's what I was thinking. It's been a while since I delved into these old settings.

 

[Azzy]

Technically the PHB has too much in it. Dragonborn? Tieflings? They aren't in Greyhawk. What are these Warlocks and Sorcerers?

The only reason they "aren't in" Greyhawk is because they didn't exist when Greyhawk was originally published.

And it is missing stuff: Where are the sun elves? They might be eladrin now?

Sun elves are a Forgotten Realms thing, not Greyhawk.

 

[Zardnaar]

The only reason they "aren't in" Greyhawk is because they didn't exist when Greyhawk was originally published.



Sun elves are a Forgotten Realms thing, not Greyhawk.

Sort of feeds back into why people don't like it. The new races may exist but they're not a major natural part of the setting.

They retconned in Dragonborn nation's in 4E FR. It was terrible.

 

[jmucchiello]

Where are the kenku and araccoka nations? (Like I know how to spell it)

 

[Fenris-77]

Where are the kenku and araccoka nations? (Like I know how to spell it)

They were at the back of the queue when they handed out retconned nations and missed out. I think they may have gotten a lovely vacation home in the Dales as consolation though, so there's that.

 

[jmucchiello]

There's plenty of room in the Dales for a small avian nation. People are always saying that.

 

[Azzy]

Sort of feeds back into why people don't like it. The new races may exist but they're not a major natural part of the setting.

Ermegerd, it's new! I gotta hates it!

They retconned in Dragonborn nation's in 4E FR. It was terrible.

Yeah, the hamfisted approach that they too in 4e's FR to dragonaborn (and, to be fair, everything else) was horrible. On the other hand, the approach they took to adding dragonborn to Eberron was very low key and unobtrusive.

 

[Zardnaar]

Ermegerd, it's new! I gotta hates it!



Yeah, the hamfisted approach that they too in 4e's FR to dragonaborn (and, to be fair, everything else) was horrible. On the other hand, the approach they took to adding dragonborn to Eberron was very low key and unobtrusive.

Eberron was also built from the ground up as anything goes.

In a vacumn I don't mind most things. Except Kender.

I like variety, some settings anything goes sure. Other settings not so much.

 

[Azzy]

Eberron was also built from the ground up as anything goes.

That's irrelevant to the manner in which it was handled in Eberron vis-a-vis the Forgotten Realms.