[OOC] Ever Dream, The Worlds of Life (Closed)

[Jochannan]

He exhausted his divine power, leaving behind "only" a very powerful being on par with most of the titans. But Inspiration is firmly established force in the universe, and if Jo'Karr couldn't fulfill that role anymore, someone had to. So Alexandra, being Jo'Karr's second in command, ascended, to an extent, and became a quasi-goddess.

 

[Tonguez]

If we're looking for good creation myths...what if we somehow combine the plane of shadow, or put in it's place, Nos's realm of "what isn't" and make it a very remote plane, which can be touched upon but is very difficult to locate/enter and even more difficult to comprehend, almost like the far realm.

Oh, and I like #2 cosmology better too.

I'm a little confused, did Jo'karr die? and how did the angel suddenly become a god?

In one of my ic posts I talked about Traume looking 'beyond' the shadow into the brilliance of the infinite expanse. I'd suggest that this be congruent with Nos' "What Isn't" (Traume has looked upon it and wondered, Nos has taken the ultimate step and explored...)

Also my thinking re shadow is that it is what lies beyond the created multiverse an encompassing 'limit of existence'

 

[Tonguez]

On the RG thread I have put a list of all mortals (and Titans) mentioned in the game, as well as a list of mortal cities and nations. Use this information to keep our stories consistent as you expand them...

 

[Wrahn]

In one of my ic posts I talked about Traume looking 'beyond' the shadow into the brilliance of the infinite expanse. I'd suggest that this be congruent with Nos' "What Isn't" (Traume has looked upon it and wondered, Nos has taken the ultimate step and explored...)

Also my thinking re shadow is that it is what lies beyond the created multiverse an encompassing 'limit of existence'

I don't have any trouble with that, but (there is always a but) Endovior came from an alternate existence. It would follow there are an infinite number of alternate existances and that seems to be more of the infinite expanse that Traume was looking at.

The "What Isn't" is more of a metaphysical state rather than a place, or more preciscely a state of non-being, a non-place. I would put it akin to the far realm, but decidedly different, depending on your understanding of the far realm.

But if you wish Traume to have seen "What Isn't" I have absolutely no issue with that either.

 

[magic_gathering2001]

If the plane of shadows becomes what isn't and traume decides to have seen it maybe that would be where I travel time in. that would explain why you know about the agents (other than being the god of knowledge/secrets) and how you are the only one caoable of covering my tracks , also it would explain how I survived after the end of time. Though i would somehow need to block out my view of it (as to have not seen the stuff there and become a god of secrets)

 

[FreeXenon]

Catching Up

Tonguez
Thanks for the posts in RG. I had been toying with the idea of creating and Ever Dream Enclyopedia Thread when I thougth of creating the separate threads. What do you guys think?

Yes, the Great King is Maelef. Sorry for wording that might have been confusing.

magic_gathering2001

The etheral plane connects all other planes other than Nos' special place

Jo'Karrs future plane will have a "peephole" into the prime so he can watch the mortals progress.

The plane of Shadows is coexistant with the prime.

Portals are demiplanes that are the shortest distance between the start and the finish(basically this means that a portal leads in to a demiplane connecting the two planes with a cylindrical shap and a length of two feet or whatever standard measuring unit the people use)

Plane Shifting magic can only shift between overlapping planes. All Dieties Realms can be wherever they feel like putting them.

Some comments:
I hear the voice of defeat in your post. I hope that this is not the case?

No Astral? interesting. Any particualr reason why? Just curious.
Do you plan on creating your own plane, or are you thinking of making the Etheral your home plane?

As far as plane shifting is concerned, since we are not really specifying absolute planar positions this rule might not be so necessary, unless we want to determine planar placements. It will be harder to determine who is adjacent.

I like the idea that portals create a temporary demiplane that is the shortest distance between two planar points. Interesting!

Angelic Quasi-Godess
I do not see any inherent problems with this possibility. There are precedents that support that this is possible. Mortals became Gods The Time of Troubles in the Realms: Cyric, Midnight, Kelemvor and so on. There is also another Forgotten Realms precendent with the Godess Lleira assuming the portfolio of Waukeen while the she was imprisoned by the Demon Lord Grazzt. It provides for an interesting story and flavor.

 

[FreeXenon]

The Place that Isn't and the Plane of Shadows

If the plane of shadows becomes what isn't and traume decides to have seen it maybe that would be where I travel time in. that would explain why you know about the agents (other than being the god of knowledge/secrets), also it would explain how I survived after the end of time. Though i would somehow need to block out my view of it (as to have not seen the stuff there and become a god of secrets)

I hesitate a little bit to do this for concerns about using spells with the shadow descriptor and having it mesh properly.

The 'Place that Isn't' is a place of darkness and madness. A place that would be perfect for an Alienists to contact. I suppose that Shadow spells would just barely touch the power of the 'Place that Isn't' so we might not have to worry about it. It might also be the place the powers things such as Sphere's of anihilation. It could house the 'Infinite Realities' as well. The one all encompassing layer that contains everything.

We could have the 'Place that Isn't' as the Plane of Shadows and you definitely could have traveled through time via this plane. Even though you does not mean that you would know everything that NOS does. NOS has spent an enternity there. Longer that any of us have been around. There is much in a plane that you will have not seen in your brief stint there.

You may not even have known about the dangers involved. You just knew that you could travel like this. You might have known all of this before you time walked and forgot either do to the influence of the plane itself or as a result of time travel.

 

[magic_gathering2001]

I plan on using the ethaeril plane as my own. The astral plane, in my mind is jusst a place where portals to everywhere can be found since portals have been redefined the astral plane is obsoulite.


My post sounded defeated because I was getting kicked of the computer and didnt get to finnish it

 

[FreeXenon]

I understand. Fair enough!!

 

[FreeXenon]

LOL!!
Holy respect Alexandra in the morning!

Jochannan[sblock]Would you mind if Shara has Othar invoke the Immortal Horizon preventing the easy transportation of creatures from other planes to the Prime, and also for her to transport your sarcaphogus to Zhyreus (her home plane) while you rest. Hopefully, this will slow down the invasion of the prime quite a bit. [/sblock]