OOC: House Millithor in COSQ part 4

[Pyrex]

I just had another thought for fighting the Balor.

Cast Silence on a vampire.
Have him go gaseous.
Have him hang around the Balor.
->Balor is now denied use of his SP abilities.

Problem: Gaseous vampire only moves at 20'. Balor moves at 90', can easily move & cast.

Solution: ??

 

[Dalamar]

Problem number two: silence doesn't foil SLAs

Solution: There isn't one

Good news: Torellan and Matron are immune to one of the Balor's most effective SLAs, implosion. Thanks to the saving throw line only reading "Fortitude negates", without the needed (object) to affect undead (or constructs for that matter).

 

[Pyrex]

*goes & checks*
Oops, you're right. I thought they had the same components.

 

[Dalamar]

Changes on Torellan after level up:

6 hit points, Dex increased by 1 (no change in modifier), BAB increased by 1 (gained extra attack, don't own a third +1 Returning Adamantine Dagger), 2,5 ranks in Use Magic Device, Precise Shot and Ranged Disarm (Dagger) feats (Ranged Disarm is from Complete Warrior and I bet you can quess what it does)

 

[Uriel]

Be Vewy,Vewy Quiet...We'aw Hunting Bahlaws...

Does Kripp Level up as well? I'm not sure how you are doing things regarding the Fiendish template being added. I guess my question is similar to Xael's (since he is a Vampire, right?)...

 

[Serpenteye]

Fortunately Outsiders can be level drained,but our vampires can only hit the Balor on a natural 20.
First of all we need to disarm the Balor of its Vorpal Sword, to make it less of a threat in melee and so that we get some loot out of the encounter. 10 Vampires should Aid Another on Ziegrek's disarm attempt, a +20 to the check will give us a pretty good chance.
Then, if Z has Power Attack, perhaps the surviving Vampires should Aid him in attacking the Balor. Even though the first 15 points will be subtracted from the damage he should be able to inflict some damage on a full Power attack, and his hit chances shouldn't be too abysmal.

On the other hand, the Balor has 290 hp. It can, and will use Fire Storm to clear away all of our vampires and wound the rest of us. Then it will follow up with Power Word Stun on the wounded Ziegrek, Quicken Telekinesis to throw the Matron off the cliff and laugh as Quertus and Kripp tries to penetrate its SR and beat its saves. It will kill every single one of us. Anyone who manages to escape will be hunted down like an animal. Well, that's what I would do if I were the Balor, and Endur's twize the tactician I am.

 

[Endur]

Everyone levels up.

level 15: Ki'Willis
level 14: Narcelia, Carcelon, Tierak, Dariel, Quertus,.
level 12: Kilcif, Torellan
level 11: Kripp
level 10: Zieggrek

(templates, level adjustment, are on top of levels)

 

[Goddess FallenAngel]

Transmutation is the weapon ability Serp was looking for. It is in the Miniatures Handbook. It takes 1 round to adjust to any given DR except epic (basically, you hit it once, by next round it bypasses that particular DR until you hit another DR). It is a +4 weapon bonus. Kinda expensive.

I do have Power Attack. I also am a 10th level barbarian (after I level up) with the Rage abilities to match, and a 35 Str (before I rage). (Character sheet is here: http://www.angelfire.com/retro/goddess_fa/roleplaying/Zieggrek.html; the Marton would most likely be able to access Matron Morcane's memories for my abilities).

I think, with backup, I would be a serious challenge to the Balor. (As long as I can get help from that backup! )

The vorpal is only on a nat 20 followed by a successful roll to confirm the crit. If he has the standard whip (the balor write-up has), then to negate two attacks I can get rid of the whip first (not many hit points, I can probably Sunder it) then work on the sword. The Dominate Monster spell-like ability they get may be a problem, however. I am will-bait, and it would be bad to have Zieggrek turned on the party. Trust me.

 

[Goddess FallenAngel]

I don't think it is as bad as you guys think - it is bad, but I think we can take him. We may lose a person or two, but... *shrug*

For the record, if Zieggrek dies, I will be sad that I lost a fun character - but I would make a new one, or assume one already running around, and go on. And Zieggrek, for his part, is practically salvating at the chance to fight a Balor.

Endur, I wish to reiterate my comments from last time the concept of you leaving came up - I would miss the game, but if you feel you need to, I will understand. It's better to quit while you're ahead rather than run a game you are not enjoying into the ground. I think you are a great DM. I can understand some of the words that other said - the game has changed, even since I joined, but really, I was taking it more as a "get out of Sith Morcane". Some of the enemies/events didn't make sense until you explained them, but I understand better now.

As for moving on - I think that we are 'stalled' so to speak, because of lack of a tactic to take - the path to Maemyrdra (sp?) does seem rather hopeless without a large force.

So here's another idea: how about a small, scouting force? Sneak in, gain access to Irae's living quarters (where is she in the city, again?) and kill her. Sounds good to me. We're never going to be able to raise enough of a force to storm the place in time. So let's not try.

Ideas? Comments?

 

[Endur]

If you really want to be pessimistic:
1) Carcelon could have been killed by a Stone Giant boulder.
2) Kripp could have been killed by the Claw for not bringing back Carcelon.
3) Narcelia could still be in a zoo.
4) Kilcif could have been food for the Swimmer in Darkness.
5) Laral could have used the cloak that the Matron sold in Skullport and some of her hairs as a focus to summon her body away from Szith Morcane.
6) Eilos could have killed his younger brother (just because he wanted to help Quertus become a Lich).
7) Zieggrek could have been killed by Tierak's Bebiliths
8) Starving vampires could drink the blood of Tierak.
9) Dariel could have been killed long ago and was replaced by a doppleganger.
10) Torellan could be very lonely.

On the other hand, the Balor has 290 hp. It can, and will use Fire Storm to clear away all of our vampires and wound the rest of us. Then it will follow up with Power Word Stun on the wounded Ziegrek, Quicken Telekinesis to throw the Matron off the cliff and laugh as Quertus and Kripp tries to penetrate its SR and beat its saves. It will kill every single one of us. Anyone who manages to escape will be hunted down like an animal. Well, that's what I would do if I were the Balor, and Endur's twize the tactician I am.