OOC: Tholestia: also XP and GP tracking etc.

[Ravellion]

*DM coughs*

In my point of view I, Tristan, am now officially DEAD...

And your point of view doesn't matter yet... Even though three characters are either complete selfish bastards or attention span lacking idiots (open to discussion),we still have one person left who still has to prove or disprove himself as such.

You can declare yourself dead after Wulf has made his intentions known (you can also leave the party when you see three people not even checking to see if you are OK and being self absorbed if Wulf decides to heal you). And check your email (which I accidently sent subjectless - I hate it when people do that, so I apologise).

Rav

 

[Sullaf]

Will - laugh at this extraordinary display of looting, at the expense of a fellow PC
Won't - let the next T... die so easily

Oh well they could always reincarnate you into a familiar (can you say "Toad"? It ALSO starts with a "T" ). You could even join the Familiar's Union! Now if the Familiar Union would strike, THAT would be a real cataclysm.

 

[Spellsword]

As I posten in the game thread...there is nothing I can do....I ahve no healing spells, neither have I got potions.... so I am terribly sorry....(though Take probably thanks me for this)

moreover the fact I have just risen from the dead also makes it unlikely I am the middle of the event all of a such....

ROn: proper dming...though two times 20...WTF?
one question: I declared to take triple movement and I still got only 20 feet....?
and alos: spreading out was quite sensible I thibk....seen in the light of fireballs and not expecting two natural 20 from the Orc...he would have been pulp otherwise

Take: enjoy your next Character.

Jeroen: Cool you are joining again.... (and sorry for killing one of your previous Characters

Mathijs: thanks for healing

Karsten thanks for taking the Orc out

Jurgen....er well ehm

Al": you have to admit my Character can do more than casting MM...I remember dealing 44 damage which is not bad for a fighter wizard

 

[Ravellion]

As I posten in the game thread...there is nothing I can do....I ahve no healing spells, neither have I got potions.... so I am terribly sorry....(though Take probably thanks me for this)

moreover the fact I have just risen from the dead also makes it unlikely I am the middle of the event all of a such....

ROn: proper dming...though two times 20...WTF?
one question: I declared to take triple movement and I still got only 20 feet....?
and alos: spreading out was quite sensible I thibk....seen in the light of fireballs and not expecting two natural 20 from the Orc...he would have been pulp otherwise

Spreading out and party dynamics: you didn't spread out early enough! If Ilan hadn't critted, there would have been more than 1 PC death. You've all got the Elf to thank for basically single handedly carrying the battle (Though Diactums spells COULD have saved a PC -he was not playing his Wisdom score there- and kept the Cleric busy for one round at least by casting the hold monster).

Standing up and moving: 1 move action (or did your character stand up while unconscious?). 1 move action left: muddy conditions reduced movement rate. In the future: there is no such thing as a triple move. Your options:
single move and 1 action
double move
run (x4 in light armour, x3 in heavy - must be in straight line)
full round action (making more than 1 attack) +5 foot step
casting/manifesting for 1 full round (Begin at your initiative, end at your initiative the next round). reserved for summoning and a few other spells.

not helping a fellow PC: You were at most 30 feet away: You saw someone breathe out his last breaths while doing absolutely nothing. There is such a thing as binding his wounds (greatly increasing his survival chances: untrained heal check DC 15... or just using your imagination). AND WHAT THE #@$&! DO YOU ALL SAY THAT YOU DON'T NEED SUPPLIES FOR WHEN YOU CLEARLY DO?! You are playing 9 to 10th level PCs. I am not fudging for your stupidity. Stupidity gets people killed. it is YOUR fault for not bringing potions of healing, Dust of Appearance, Scrolls of Stone to Flesh, Hands of the Mage etc.

If you all only buy items that give plusses on skills, abilities, saves and attacks, you are going to die. It is as simple as that, here is the proof. This isn't Baldur's Gate where you never use charged/single use items because you can reload anyway. I suggest you all learn from this disaster.

Question about Wulf: Why didn't you use your boots of flying? You could have been all over the battlefield in moments - that said, I do think the item is rather flavourless (and I am thinking about changing fly for flavour reasons - it basically transform you into "superman" for the duration of the spell. 90 feet movement with perfect maneuvarability is too fast, or it lasts for too long), and if you want (since you haven't used it yet) I'll exchange it for something more character based.

Scrapping a House rule: Because of the Psions ability of emphatic transfer, I am scrapping my House rules on Cure Wounds spells. They are now again as they are written in the PHB.

going to Southampton: I am not - South Central trains are going to be on strike.

Rav

 

[Sullaf]

ROFL at enraged DM. Remember you are dealing with your Friday night players (potion of cure light wound wtf is that? Isn't that something a cleric does for free? Fcuk that I'm not wasting my money on a potion of cure light wounds! ). Just so you lot know, I AM carrying a wand of cure light wound and yes I'm not afraid to use it. I'll just charge you. I will use my credit card (Ron, am I to understand that you need to make a use magic device check for every charge I use from a wand (DC 20)? If so, what will happen if I fail? Will a charge be wasted? If I succeed at an attempt with a wand, does it make it easier the next time I'm trying to accomplish the same? Sorry for all the questions but no one really used this skill before. Well, at least not at the frequency I'm planning to.

Don't you all strike it as odd I made an attempt at humor and here Ron is, stranded... Getting a real eerie feeling about this.

To add some IC criticism (as long as I'm not playing consider me the man on the sideline who knows best ): Did no one wanted to help poor Tristan (which is completely understandable ) or were you all really to busy being generally occupied with nothing else but your own enrichment/ healing. Or did you all just slip? (Ilan and Deepwinter... I know the answer already ) I mean seriously, Wulf. Nice touch being melodramatic about your 'first war' and 'wanting to leave as soon as possible' but adding the little 'not leaving without treasure' just made it really silly. And just standing there thinking 'oh my I just don't know how to save that poor man' instead of at least yelling out 'people, there IS a man dying here' seems an argument that does not validate your claim that it was not in your power to save him.

Please do not take any of this offensive It is just my humble opinion. OOC great job, IC could add some realism...

Oh well, it's easy for me to say. I wasn't there at the great battle of... wherever you are. And Take does like to come up with new characters (a cleric I presume? one that does nothing but stay in the background trying not to be killed by either friend or foe)

I hope to join you all soon (hurry up Ron ffs) so I can bitch at you all IC.

Generally speaking: Great game people (especially Diactum, considering he is pretty new to this game, and playing a high level wizard does take skill. At this level, a Wizard is only as deadly as a PC plays him (now this is pretty much stating the obvious but you all get my point, I hope. Then again... o dear I forgot my point...)

Now move along. Nothing to see here...

 

[Ravellion]

Sullaf... I just didn't think your attempt at humour was funny!

more ranting
And if a hardhanded tone gets the point across better... so be it. I am just saying that I don't pull any punches, and if the PCs prefer to be unprepared, they'll just die. Not being evil here, I am just saying that as long as I think the encounter was fair, I am going to let the dice fall where they may. I am quite a good judge of Encounter strengths, and if this battle was properly played by the PCs, there certainly wouldn't have been a PC death.

Tactical and Game Mechanical Analysis of Diactum
As I said before: Ilan's critical saved the day. Deepwinter 7 also made no mistakes - but his battle plan has been tried and tested. Surprisingly, Bacters playing was also very good - apart from perhaps the fireball on the single orc as being a bit wasteful - a confusion would have probably been a good choice there, except he needed the confusion to save Tristan - which he did, and then rapidly forgot 2 seconds later as soon as he imagined the wealth of knowledge in spellbooks the opponent might have with him.

DIactum isn't a minmaxed Wizard - game mechanically he can't excel at anything. He just does a lot of stuff reasonably well. He is a generalist Wizard, non-specialized, without a perfect INT score, a very sad 9 DEX, and a very varied spell list. That last item is his main strength. Bacter has to start judging every situation and matching them to the variety of spells he can choose from. Some with Will saves, some helping friends, some with Reflex saves, some defensive. I think it is the perfect training for a player to play a generalist wizard character. A lot of options, which you can even change from day to day if needed. Difficult, but I wish I could play a character like him in a campaign. It can be very rewarding if you have an answer to every situation.

Take's new character's stats
Anyway, I rolled for Takes character... I think he is glad to have a new character :
Strength = 16.
Dexterity = 15.
Constitution = 13.
Intelligence = 15.
Wisdom = 15.
Charisma = 16.

And still allowed to switch two scores. I rerolled a 12 which was in Strength. Perhaps you would have preferred to do constitution, which I'll allow, in which case you'll have 12 Strength and 16 constitution. Any of the other scores I simply won't believe Personally, I would play a Human Bard with this, but that is just me

Use Magic Device
Unidentified wands require two rolls; one at a DC of 20 to make the wand think you are a spellcaster (actually works the other way around, but this is easier to explain). The other at DC 25 in order to actually activate it if you don't know the command word or what the wand does in the first place. You have to make both checks every time you want to use it, +2 bonus for getting it right once before for the "command word one". If attempting to use it fails through either means, no charge is expended,you just can't use the thing. If either check is failed by 10 or more then bad things happen(tm).

It only takes an identify to get to know the command word, so I'll guess that you know the one used by your wand of Cure Light wounds.

Ilan has a wand of Cure Light Wounds too, but ever since his strange resurrection he can't use it anymore

Any more questions ?

 

[Ravellion]

As both Take and Deepwinter 7 have suggested before, it would be nice to have the PCs somewhere where the players themselves could edit them... Lo and Behold! Post your PCs in the Rogue's Gallery forum, in the thread specifically designed for it:Tholestia PBP Player Characters

To make it dead easy, just cut and paste from my site!

Do make sure to do this! I will be using the rogue gallery thread to track your abilities when I am running combat (Saving throws, attacks of opportunity, the whole enchilada, to use an Americanism)

Hardly any effort for you, and you no longer have to bother with putting it in HTML (though I still like the ordering of the information as it is done right now)! Easier for us all. As soon as Lycos allows the webistes to be updated again, I shall put all important links on my frontpage, such as the one above, the one you are reading right now, and the PBP itself.

Rav

 

[Spellsword]

Well, Ron not going to southhampton certainly resulted in loadsa posting from his side.

I afraid I must admit the critics (jeroen en ron ) were right. I was unrealistic to let tristan die....and egoistic...
and maybe we can learn some something this combat ( yugh!)
we should be more prepared in terms of healing/dispelling etc..... (@#$@#$%@ wiseass dm we did pull trhough thanks to the archer.....but I stick to my point that the Orc critical also made a lot of difference (though the possibilty should always be taken into account, true) I would have lived and killed him and DW7 and Ilan would not have bothered about saving me, which most likely would have resulted in a living tristan!!!!!!!
About the boots...I could have used them and I did not think about it, but come on I could start flying cast spells from the air every combat, but that would ruin gaming. I am in favour of coolness and realism (though this ocassion does not really tell that ) and not in favour of the most efficient way to kill the enemy and reap the rewards.
and that is all I have to say about that..

So let us all race back to town, pick up the dwarf and Take and supply ourselves to the mAX!!!

Question: Ron, are you really angry?

 

[Ravellion]

About the boots...I could have used them and I did not think about it, but come on I could start flying cast spells from the air every combat, but that would ruin gaming. I am in favour of coolness and realism (though this ocassion does not really tell that ) and not in favour of the most efficient way to kill the enemy and reap the rewards.

Exactly. That's what I meant: If you want to exchange them for something more character based - I'll do that. I have made a custom itme with both of Jeroen's characters (but it helped because he had written them into his background), and I am going to do with Take's new character as well.

Question: Ron, are you really angry?

No, because it was Take's character - I know he doesn't mind making new characters... I think it is half of his fun. No, it is more a shocked sense of disbelief - not so much on Ilan and Deepwinter's part. They are just bastards who need someone to take the blows while they shoot arrows/create constructs. But that you and Bacter just let a companion die is... odd... and somewhat disturbing.

Rav

 

[Deepwinter 7]

Just a small remark on my behalf :

OOC : I would have healed Tristan although Take would have wanted to let him die, or didn't really care much

IC : I would rationally have tried to get away with not healing Tristan, being a friend of Roland with similar allure. Would others have pressed I would have stabilized him. IC healing others by physically transfering their wounds to oneself sounds painful. I guess I would only do that to people I like

IC/OOC : I plainly forgot, stupid eh? Just like the horse, I thought it was toast the moment that fireball hit (and I forgot about Tristan still needing to stabilize). Were this a real DnD session, I would have known

And yes Ilan and DW7 need cannonfodder