(OOC) Transformers: Robots in Disguise!

[Vendetta]

Oh and to the second bit yeah officially Form Feats are only allowed to be purchased with Form Feats.

GAH!

I didn't see that anywhere but it makes sense, it being a special priority and all and having the delay thing.

But, I'm somewhat torn... the book mentions how transformers are always improving and so on, partly due to the little nanomechs and better technology... Maybe i'll bend that rule for us and allow us (since Transformers are cooler than regular old Mechamorphs) to use your even level character feats (6th, 12th and 18th) on regular feats or form feats, if you like.

hafrogman
I love Stickshift!!! I can totally see him running around with the first series of transformers in the cartoon.
I think your NR should be 11, instead of 9.
4 (power priority) + 1 (int mod) + 6 ({cha mod +1}x3 levels)

And your HPs should be 45
d12s for soldier; 12 x 3 levels = 36, con mod of +3 x 3 levels = 9, 36+9=45

You know… Reading these two characters and descriptions, the touches that you guys have put on them, really brings me back to the days when I was flipped out over Transformers. This is SOOOO cool. God, I hope I can do this game justice.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Okay, just to give a quick update on what I have so far... It will be quick cause I haven't had a chance to really go into it but will tonight.

I'm going with a tracker trailer, which is Gargantuan so I'm still waiting for the objection if need be, by the name of Jackknife.

My very much WIP breakdown looks something like this:
Ability Scores: 5
Alt Form: 3*
Form Feats: 3
Tech Gear: 3 (+3)
Special Powers: 1

Special powers, really didn't excite me and except for mirage I really don't remember to many of G1 have them... Now I could be wrong I have the memory of an old man...

* I do have a question, on your Alt Form rules, you Alt form rules is it more advantageous to use your rule or is someone better of using the form feats that one gets?

I don't see anyone taking Kalanyr up on his offer, nor do I see anyone taking up my offer on being group leader...

Kalanyr, sort of suggested I should be the group leader in chat last night, if he still fills this way than I shall go with that and his large sized katana will be soon put the knife and the word jackknife cause it's going to be smaller sized weapon for him.

Do we have a scientist yet? Or someone who can perform the much needed complex repair work? I only bring it up cause I'm not going to be a good fit for it... (I see myself taking 3 levels of solider and wondering why I have to by weapon proficiency... That's got to be a first for a pure warrior in d20.)

 

[hafrogman]

Yeah, it never officially says anything about form feats, and really both ways make sense. One posibility would be to give additional priority points as we level. For example you get your feat at 3,6,9... and a stat point at 4,8,12..., perhaps you could get a priority point at 5,10,15... That way, if you wished to you could get more form feats later on.

You're right about HP, and I'll have to assume you're right about Nexus points, because you wrote the rule But I sort of assumed it to be base and then the cha + 1 every time you leveled up, not for each level. But you're the boss. Off to edit I go.

A few general thoughts on the book:

Am I the only one who finds the fact that Soldiers don't get full BAB progression kind of strange? Secondly, has anyone else looked over the ramming rules? Those are NASTY. If I ram someone at my top speed (18) and with my ramming feats, I deal (10d6)*4 damage! 40 - 240! average 140. Okay, sure I deal (8d6*their size modifier)-5 to myself, but still. Optimus should have just run that Megatramp down! End of series right there. Does anyone know if there is any errata yet? Some of the feats section has a few errors. Is High Performance a form feat (as table) or not (as feat write up). Where is the Weapon Network feat that appears on the form feat table? I think that's about it that I've noticed.

 

[hafrogman]

I don't see anyone taking Kalanyr up on his offer, nor do I see anyone taking up my offer on being group leader...

Kalanyr, sort of suggested I should be the group leader in chat last night, if he still fills this way than I shall go with that and his large sized katana will be soon put the knife and the word jackknife cause it's going to be smaller sized weapon for him.

I have no objection to you being leader, but we may need to see how the group is set up anyways. We could all be operating under the big OP (I'm down with O the P, yeah you know me!). And Bushido will size to fit any user, even your gargantuan hands.

Do we have a scientist yet? Or someone who can perform the much needed complex repair work? I only bring it up cause I'm not going to be a good fit for it...

Not yet, but so far we only have three characters, and two more interested players. Also, if we are operating with other Autobots, there could be a scientist/repair person back at the Ark as an NPC (polish your receptors, Perceptor!)

(I see myself taking 3 levels of solider and wondering why I have to by weapon proficiency... That's got to be a first for a pure warrior in d20.)

Umm. . .huh? Page 23, "Soldiers are proficient with all simple and martial archaic weapons and with firearms" (my note: if it were just simple firearms it would say so). Thus, the only profiency feat you could need is exotic archaic proficiency (to wield Bushido perhaps?)

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I have no objection to you being leader, but we may need to see how the group is set up anyways. We could all be operating under the big OP (I'm down with O the P, yeah you know me!).

That could work... Though now I wonder if theirs much need for another tracker trailer...

And Bushido will size to fit any user, even your gargantuan hands.

Right, but with my quick glance through the book I saw that some forums cost more, example two handed large sword, and in that case for a gargantuan character that's only a one handed weapon. (anyhow it was only meant as a joke. No real rules reason for it. )

Not yet, but so far we only have three characters, and two more interested players. Also, if we are operating with other Autobots, there could be a scientist/repair person back at the Ark as an NPC (polish your receptors, Perceptor!)

very true, I was simply giving a suggestion/observation...

Umm. . .huh? Page 23, "Soldiers are proficient with all simple and martial archaic weapons and with firearms" (my note: if it were just simple firearms it would say so).

Sweet! I missed that... Can I blame my wife for talking to me while I was reading it? (I agree with your firearms reasoning)

Thus, the only profiency feat you could need is exotic archaic proficiency (to wield Bushido perhaps?)

Not sure... A Katanna is usually stated out as a bastard sword. (Which can be used as a martial weapon in D&D with two hands) So Jackknife do to his size may be able to wield Bushido with no issues at all. (DM's call)

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

One posibility would be to give additional priority points as we level.

I do like that idea, but I guess we should also say that it tops out at 5 points in one category. (no going for 6 points priority)

Am I the only one who finds the fact that Soldiers don't get full BAB progression kind of strange?

No I find it insanely strange… I’ve been debating on taking scout levels because of it also.

(See the Skill Points at first level being way more valuable then the difference in hit points cause of this.)

Secondly, has anyone else looked over the ramming rules? Those are NASTY.

Yeah, I saw them too... I guess if it comes down to doing something fatally yet heroic I know how I'm going to do it.

 

[Kalanyr]

Heh, its the weapon complexity and hands required that cost form points, Weapon Mechamorphs scale to the size of their wielder (mentioned in the write up on them). And as to the Katana I used the Katana write-up in d20 modern, which seems fairly different to a MW Bastard Sword.

Edit - I also find the soldier lack of 1/1 BAB disturbing (its probably because the d20 Modern Soldier PRC is 3/4 though.) And note 2, I can provide you with proficiency in Bushido, although it will stop me bestowing a more useful feat upon you.

 

[Kalanyr]

Hmm, eep, does anyone want to give me hand with my background ? I put Bushido together because he seemed like a fun character but looking at him in hindsight he fits the Decepticon mould better than the Autobot, apart from the Honour thing.

 

[hafrogman]

Hmm, eep, does anyone want to give me hand with my background ? I put Bushido together because he seemed like a fun character but looking at him in hindsight he fits the Decepticon mould better than the Autobot, apart from the Honour thing.

Perhaps honour is the key. He was a military transformer and was under the service of the Decepticons, but was disgusted when he was ordered to do dishonorable things. As a result he left the Decepticons and joined the Autobots.

You'll notice I went fairly barebones with my history. I can't see it as having nearly as much impact on the game as the bot's personality. All our history is on Cybertron, but we aren't.

 

[Kalanyr]

Mmm, works for me. Thanks. Hmm and yeah barebones history seems appropriate considering the actual Transformers didn't seem to have a lot either, until the Movie came out. Ah crap, I didn't write up the personality. Thanks.