OotS 406

[Nifft]

... and in need of Sundering.

Once the Paladin has "Improved Sunder", it's probably too late.

-- N

 

[Sound of Azure]

Holy palooza!

Roll on Monday! (Well, Tuesday here.... )

 

[Grog]

Miko brutally murdered a defenseless old man in cold blood.

Anyone who thinks she's still a paladin after that, I want to play in your game, because you don't have a paladin class, you have a "fighter who gets bonus cool abilities for free" class since there's no way anyone could ever lose their paladin status in your game.

 

[Hawkshere]

Remember the good old days when OotS wasn't so damn wordy? When it was fun to read?

OotS has jumped the shark, but it's on the Erfworld site, so, hey, I'll catch up once in a while.

If Rich was still telling spot skill and dungeon bathroom jokes after all this time, we would have all given up on it long before now...

 

[jeffh]

I think the old guy was evil.

I mean, come on, "Convenient Morality"? This is typical villain-speak. He circumvented justice for his own expedience, he betrayed those who put trust in him, and he abused his power. Miko is serving as an agent of true divine retribution here -- he's guilty as sin for what he's done.

Nonsense. Saving the entire world from anhiliation is a long, long way from "his own expedience"; indeed, thinking in such blackl-and-white terms is precisely where Miko goes wrong. Putting her own personal revenge ahead of the safety of Azure City is far closer to evil than anything Shojo has done.

 

[DaveMage]

I love it when we get triple panels.

 

[Nifft]

Nonsense. Saving the entire world from anhiliation is a long, long way from "his own expedience"; indeed, thinking it is, is precisely where Miko goes wrong. Putting her own personal revenge ahead of the safety of Azure City is far closer to evil than anything Hinjo has done.

Exactly. Shojo has been underhanded, devious, and manipulative for the greater good. He has subjected himself to ridicule and serious inconvenience (with the senile act). He could have achieved a bit of safety in far more evil ways, but he chooses to NOT kill those who would wish to assassinate him, but rather to suffer indignity. Self-Sacrifice: It's Good(tm).

Miko, on the other hand, puts her anger and desire for revenge ahead of the public good. She puts it ahead of the law. She puts it ahead of the lives of the many innocents who need defending against the known evil army of hobgoblins and undead.

She's just done herself some cold-blooded murder, with a dash of regicide for spice.

Miko, welcome to the Dark Side.

-- N

 

[Vraille Darkfang]

Miko brutally murdered a defenseless old man in cold blood.

Attacked. Attacked a defenseless old man in cold blood. He's not Dead Yet.

Well, he's got the Resources of an Entire City-State at his disposal, so he could have who-knows-what in terms of magic items on him.

So:

Attacked a Seemingly Defenseless old man in cold blood.

Actually, she seemed to be pretty upset (Or angry as a janitor following Ogre Beans & Fiber Fest).

So, she attacked a seemingly defenseless old man in a fit of anger.

Again, I wouldn't be surprised if the old coot lives. Massive Resources, Paranoia +5. I think he might have a Ring of Regeneration or a Contingency Spell tucked up his tukus.

Plus. Miko seems to really believe Shojo is in League with the Lich (after all what's 40 years to a lich). If she is reacting due to her beliefs (and Paladin Codes vary from World to World) I'd still say I wouldn't have her be a Fallen Paladin.

That's not saying a wouldn't have her God make her horse appear & kick her in the rear for being such a Jackass.


To Point:

Being Stupid is NOT against the Paladin's Code (no matter how much I sometimes wish it was).

"OK. You want a Gelding for a Special Mount, they'll make you one. OK"*

A real phrase I used in one of my 2nd ed games.

First Paladin betrayed by his horse when the BBEG promised a Regenerate spell & some "Eye for an Eye" Justice.

 

[Sejs]

What if she is right? The old guy is some polymorphed demon who was only interested in keeping the Snarl Imprisoned as if its all destroyed, you can't take it over.

If I was the DM....

A polymorphed demon interested in taking over the world... that's in command of a legion of paladins.

Talk about suicidal.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

A polymorphed demon interested in taking over the world... that's in command of a legion of paladins.

Talk about suicidal.

But ... would it surprise you if in the next 10 (or 40...) panels we discover some kind of crazy plot like this?

Again, I'm not trying to make Miko into the saint she isn't. But I think the "She killed an old defenseless man" cries that are leaping out of this thread are a bit too simplistic for the past experience of OotS, no?