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Vyvyan Basterd said:
...and the slaves she's trying to save, and the other resistance fighters with her. Haley won't mind if they die at all. :p

Most of them are under cover, so a meteor swarm would probably not get all of them.

But, them's the breaks. And the grain, being unattended objects, would be destroyed.

Brad
 

the Jester said:
Am I understanding the argument here correctly? Because he makes money at it, you can complain, even though you aren't providing any of that money?

I have bought OotS books. I have bought the books because I enjoy the strip. I would very much prefer it if he was able to keep up with the schedual that he said he would and to have the bandwidth available so I can read the strip when I want to and thus in turn I would give him more money by buying more products. He hasn't kept up with the three-a-week he said (and as of this post is still saying) he will be doing. Not even close.

He is sick - I understand that and will give him some slack but it would still be nice to be told 'come back tommorrow' when a strip is going to be late without having to wade through the forums that cause the aforementioned slowdowns.

He is asking for my money by having OotS products. I have given him money in the past (one year I bought my entire D&D group OotS item as Christmas gifts). I don't think a fully fuctioning site and a regular update when he says (no matter if that be 7 days a week or 1 day a week if that is all he can manage due to whatever circumstances he is facing) is too much to ask.
 

Heckler said:
And the other people in that thread would never call him out for threadcrapping.
Last I looked, the title of the thread was "OotS 512" not "Say only nice things about OotS 512 and don't mention if the site isn't working well enough to access it". If discussing OotS and the issues accessing it on an OotS thread is threadcrapping, I think the definition has gotten a bit broad for usefulness.
 

Fifth Element said:
There's no marginal cost to you to view the comic. It's effectively free, assuming you would pay for internet access if it didn't exist.

It costs Mr. Burlew money to put it on the internet. Complaining that it's really popular is, well, I don't know the word for it.

I think the actual complaint is not that other people like it, but its that we have trouble getting it.

Which seems a valid thing to say "Hey this makes a good thing not so good overall. That sucks."

If you compare no comic to late comic, obviously the late comic is preferable.

If we are analyzing whether the delay is annoying, that also seems obvious that it is.

The two are not mutually exclusive.
 

the Jester said:
Am I understanding the argument here correctly? Because he makes money at it, you can complain, even though you aren't providing any of that money?

Well, I can complain about anything I want to. I can feel justified in complaining anytime someone sets up an expectation and then fails to fulfill it. The money issue comes up only because some people act as if Rich is exempt from criticism because he is giving us OotS "for free".

The difference between OotS and network tv is as simple as it is intrusive. Commercials. You pay for your network tv by buying the products advertised.
No. I might "pay for it" in the soul searing idiocy of some of the commercials, but I don't have to buy anything, and can't think of any products I have bought that are advertised on my most watched channel.

BTW, your two paragraphs seem to be contradicting each other, one implying that I can only complain about OotS if I personally have bought the products it advertises for, and the other that any watcher of network TV is presumed to be paying for it due to the existence of commercials. Could you clarify?
 

Kahuna Burger said:
BTW, your two paragraphs seem to be contradicting each other, one implying that I can only complain about OotS if I personally have bought the products it advertises for, and the other that any watcher of network TV is presumed to be paying for it due to the existence of commercials. Could you clarify?

I'd be happy to.

My first paragraph was an attempt to clarify the nature of your argument, and my second paragraph was a comment on why I do not think the network tv analogy holds water (OotS does not have commercials, whereas network tv does; commercials are what pay for network tv; regardless of what any one individual may buy or not buy, they clearly generate significant return on investment for the companies they advertise).

I think you are seeing a contradiction in the implication you took from my first paragraph rather than what I actually wrote. :)
 

Quality is something that everybody should try to strive for, and certainly it's an important part of a business model. Everybody complains about everything - if I see a billboard for a movie I really like but the billboard is washed-out and the lights are broken on it. I say "Hey, that billboard looks ratty, if they really want to do a billboard they should do it right."
 

cignus_pfaccari said:
Most of them are under cover, so a meteor swarm would probably not get all of them.

But, them's the breaks. And the grain, being unattended objects, would be destroyed.

Brad

Forgot about the grain. Grain silo, fire...not good.

Slife said:
Chaotic means never having to say you're sorry.

Chaotic isn't uncaring, that would be evil. Since Haley's CG she's going to feel very sorry for the deaths of innocents under her guard. Never mind her alignment even, we've seen her character develop and I'm sure her character is going to be very distraught if a bunch of people die because she was being overly glib and could have acted first to stop the wizard.
 


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