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**Opinions wanted** Jordan's Blademaster

Brainburn

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At what level would a PC be considered a "Blademaster" as per Robert Jordan's "wheel of time series.

I dont have the WoT D20 books nor do I plan on getting them. I was just curious about the D&D world and primary character classes.

ie
10th level Fighter
15th level Ranger
or whatever.....

( I hope this isn't too confusing. I am trying to articulate an offhanded question my son had.)


Brainburn
 

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Tsyr

Explorer
Well, I would say, in strictly "core" dnd rules, it's not a matter of level... its a matter of weapon mastery of a specific type. A blademaster isn't just an uber-fighter, its an uber-fighter trained in a specific style of fighting. It's not so much a thing of levels as it is a thing of focus, if you follow.

In the WoT 20 book, Blademaster is represented by a prestige class of the same name. But the prestige class is the same as the Weapon Master prestige class in Sword and Fist, with the abilities renamed to some of the specific moves and forms from the Blademaster style.
 

Brainburn

First Post
Tsyr said:
Well, I would say, in strictly "core" dnd rules, it's not a matter of level... its a matter of weapon mastery of a specific type. A blademaster isn't just an uber-fighter, its an uber-fighter trained in a specific style of fighting. It's not so much a thing of levels as it is a thing of focus, if you follow.

In the WoT 20 book, Blademaster is represented by a prestige class of the same name. But the prestige class is the same as the Weapon Master prestige class in Sword and Fist, with the abilities renamed to some of the specific moves and forms from the Blademaster style.

Hey thanks man.
He said "cool!"
damn....Now he asks of there is a feat or some equiv. to "The Void."

(Can you tell he is re-reading the WoT series??)
:)

Brainburn... Brainburning
 

Aaron L

Hero
There is a skill in the WoT game, Composure. It is the Void, or the Oneness. I never understood why it wasn't Concentration, which I always took it to be.

A check at DC 20 gives you a +1 to hit for 5 rounds.
A check at DC 15 allows you to fall asleep quickly.
A check at DC 25 gives you a +2 to Bluff, Intimidate, and Diplomacy for 10 minutes.

Each use is a full round action and they dont stack. (IE, If you make the check for the Bluff/Intimidate/Diplomacy bonus, you dont get it for combat without a second check)
 

Brainburn

First Post
Thanks

I appreciate the responses.
He thought they were both cool.
It kind of put "on paper" what he was trying to imagine.

Thanks.

Brainburn

{edit for spelling}
 
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Elder-Basilisk

First Post
I'm not so certain that a character wouldn't be considered a master swordsman (assuming that the character is proficient with swords) at the attainment of a certain attack bonus. After all, a character with with a +5 BAB hits as often as the same character with +4 BAB and weapon focus. . . .

What I would imagine is this: Being considered a master of X weapon generally occurs at a fixed game mechanical point (which will vary depending upon the power level of the game).

For a low powered game, I would imagine that a character who has a BAB of +6 and weapon specialization in a weapon would be considered a master of the weapon. Weapon specialization is required because it allows the wielder to do more damage with the weapon--and is the only technique to permit that. BAB +6 is the cut off point because that is the point at which the character in noticably quicker than other warriors (the first iterative attack).

This would mean that only fighters could be considered weapon masters but hey, they do put in the training (4 levels of it to be precise) to do that and others don't. . . .

For a higher powered game (probably D&D core power levels), I would require weapon specialization and/or improved critical (perhaps both) and a +11 BAB (the second iterative attack--another mechanical point that would have clearly visible in game effects) to be considered a master swordsman or whatever.

Alternately, I might require the weapon master prestige class or the WoT blademaster prestige class. I'm somewhat hesitant to do so, however, because it seems to me that there should be distinct differences between schools teaching mastery of the same weapon--the roaring lion school focusses on power and strength (power attack, sunder, cleave, great cleave, improved sunder) in their mastery of the longsword whereas the biting wind school focusses on finesse (dodge, mobility, expertise, spring attack, whirlwind attack, improved weapon focus, ki whirlwind) in their mastery of the longsword. Clearly, if I require weaponmaster levels to be considered a master of the longsword, all masters of the longsword will start to look pretty similar and will focus on expertise/mobility/etc. That would keep me from ever having the duel between two masters of different styles of longsword fighting since only one of them would be a "blademaster."

Brainburn said:
At what level would a PC be considered a "Blademaster" as per Robert Jordan's "wheel of time series.

I dont have the WoT D20 books nor do I plan on getting them. I was just curious about the D&D world and primary character classes.

ie
10th level Fighter
15th level Ranger
or whatever.....

( I hope this isn't too confusing. I am trying to articulate an offhanded question my son had.)


Brainburn
 

Plane Sailing

Astral Admin - Mwahahaha!
I might imagine a blademaster as someone with the following feats:

Weapon Focus (sword)
Weapon Specialisation (sword)
Improved Critical (sword)

(and ideally several other feats of my own devising which take weapon specialisation further).

i.e. someone who has focussed on becoming as good as possible with the sword as possible. The Imp Critical feat means he will be at least 8th level (if fighter), 9th level (if another fighting class)

Cheers
 

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