Order of the Stick #407!
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Rodrigo Istalindir
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frankthedm said:
Attempted murder? Pfttp. They don't give out Nobel prizes for 'Attempted Physics' do they?
I like how all of the animals/gods' faces have varying degrees of anger/disgust/shock on them 
[soup guy] No Paladin powers. ONE YEAR! [/soup guy]
[soup guy] No Paladin powers. ONE YEAR! [/soup guy]
The Iron Mark
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WHAT!? I don't understand how anyone could think she wasn't going to fall. She did a completely evil action, attacking an unarmed old man. While at the same time essentially revoking Law.Voadam said:I'm not going to argue the result. D&D alignments are flexible enough for many interpretations including that this was a correct decision. I just wouldn't have done it if I was the DM.
Hell, if I were DM I wouldn't even let her atone. There is no coming back from something like that.
GwydapLlew
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The Iron Mark said:
Episode #406 generated more than enough of these kinds of comments. Suffice it to say that not every uses the same standards when determining the responsibilities of a paladin.
What may appear crystal-clear to you is not as clear-cut to others. Including me.
Regardless, this strip was
awesome!Storm Raven
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GwydapLlew said:Episode #406 generated more than enough of these kinds of comments. Suffice it to say that not every uses the same standards when determining the responsibilities of a paladin.
I think what truly caused Mikos fall was her refusal to even attempt to ascertain the truth - no one was going to try to stop her and Hinjo if they decided to take Shojo prisoner and hold him for trial. Shojo appears to have been willing to tell them everything once they had uncovered the deception, and they had a high enough level cleric coming by to be able to cast, say zone of truth to verify that he and the OotS was not working with Xykon. But she didn't even try to find out the truth, she explicitly said she didn't care what the truth was, or who detected as evil, or really, what the gods might say on the issue.
But Miko did not choose any of these options. She jumped to a conclusion, assumed she was right, and arrogated to herself the power to render immediate judgment. Her sin was pride, and that led to her acting in anger to strike down a defenseless man who posed no real threat, and furthermore was actually innocent of the charges she murdered him for.
Finally, I'll note that the maneuvering that Shojo engaged in was to evade an oath constructed by a human agent, not a divine mandate. The paladins of the Sapphire Order took an oath based upon the decision of a human directive, not a divine directive, and Shojo's machinations were to get around this restriction foolishly imposed by a fallbile human. Miko mistakenly conflated the human directives for the Sapphire Order with a divine instruction, and thus, forgot who it is truly important to obey.
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Nikroecyst
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I am soooooo looking forward to seeing Miko the Blackguard (or antipaladin, if you will).
Matchstick
Adventurer
Agent Oracle said:
I'll tell you what I think, but you'll have to highlight to see it.
OOTS has plenty of bad guys that are flat out evil, I don't think that's what's in store for Miko. I think she's going to atone, and in a very big, very heroic, and VERY VERY fatal way. Probably in some way related to the undead army outside the gate.
Whizbang Dustyboots
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Clearly it does to him.Jakar said:
