[OT] Carrying a knife

[Goobermunch]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [OT] Carrying a knife

Besides being rude, insulting and judgemental (what else is new), you are wrong (as often is the case). I'm well versed with the details of the case. But thanks for caring. You have my permission to flame away, so enjoy.

Well, for those here who aren't, here's a quick run down of the case.

Here's a link to an article about the verdict.

http://www.vanfirm.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.htm

As I recall, there's one fact that's not mentioned here. The reason the jurors settled on the punitive damages amount was because the plaintiff spent two days in the hospital immediately after the injury. That's why McDonald's got punished for two days worth of coffee profits.

--G

 

[Emiricol]

I meant "wrong" about whether the coffee poster (me) knew the details of the case or was just talking out my arse.

I'm saying that the matter of whether the coffee case was just (or just asinine!) is a difference of opinion, not a difference in awareness of the facts of that case.

 

[takyris]

Besides being rude, insulting and judgemental (what else is new), you are wrong (as often is the case).

Pot, this is kettle, do you copy?

Please keep it calm and unpointed. I didn't read KB's statement as a slanderous attack on you -- just a symbolic reference to the fact that we don't really know, from the initial post, whether the "knife" we're being asked to sympathize over is a three-inch Swiss Army doohickey with a corkscrew and those really tiny scissors or a nine-inch Klingon monstrosity designed to cut through small automobiles and still be long enough afterward to overcome adequacy issues.

You're being rude. Please stop.

 

[Emiricol]

Pot, this is kettle, do you copy?

Please keep it calm and unpointed. I didn't read KB's statement as a slanderous attack on you -- just a symbolic reference to the fact that we don't really know, from the initial post, whether the "knife" we're being asked to sympathize over is a three-inch Swiss Army doohickey with a corkscrew and those really tiny scissors or a nine-inch Klingon monstrosity designed to cut through small automobiles and still be long enough afterward to overcome adequacy issues.

You're being rude. Please stop.

No, her reference was to the McDonald's case. Read it again. I'm perfectly willing to let it drop - just waiting for you to.

 

[Paladin]

DWARF - Screw your manager, he's a wus, keep the knife in your pocket where it can't be seen. They're not going to pat you down.

Virtually everywhere there's no such thing as a "concealed knife law," after all - the other option is to carry it open in your hand. Just about all laws on knives deal with their blade length and most ban stelettos and "switch blades", some places don't want you to carry fixed-blade knives. Here in Texas, you can carry any non-steletto that has a blade length of 5 1/2" or less.

I've carried multiple knives for years and have trained in knife fighting among my 20+ years of martial arts. (FYI, it's not the length of the knife used in the fight, it's the skill of the wielder that kills.) In this time I've come to a conclusion: everyone should carry a knife. Not just for knife fighting (you kind of need training or you'll hurt yourself) but for practical purposes. Everytime I watch someone open a box with a set of car keys I just laugh.

There was recently a fatality car accident only 3 miles up the road from me. A car crossed the median into oncoming traffic -wham- head-on collision. A passerby stopped to pull people from the burning car. The doors were jammed shut, he couldn't get to their seat belt releases. He didn't have a knife. He had to run up to another passerby and ask for a knife. By the time he got back the two front seat passengers were toasty. He barely had time to cut through the car seat straps of the 18 month old before the car went up, totally engulfed. The kid lived, the others didn't. Now the front seat passengers may have died without being pulled from the car - but they certainly died because they weren't.

You may never have to cut people from a burning car, but if you have kids - how many times has your kid got something tangled around their neck? Ever seen a kid hang himself with the mini-blind cords? You never know when you might need a knife -quickly.

Wouldn't it suck to die in a burning car wreck because you don't have a knife, couldn't cut through your own seat belt, and the guy who stops to help you is DWARF's manager?

 

[takyris]

No, her reference was to the McDonald's case. Read it again.

Thank you for the suggestion. I did.

You responded to someone's post of a law by writing, "Sounds like California with its infamouse "hot coffee lawsuit." Makes zero sense to me."

Then KB wrote:

"Someone mentioned the "california coffee case" earlier in this thread. Its quite apt for different reasons than the poster meant it. Its a reference thats thrown around by people who heard a few details and filled in others with their assumptions..."

She explicitly says that she's referring to the coffee case in a way other than the way in which you were referring to it -- taking the same topic and putting a different spin on it. She does not accuse you of not knowing the facts. What she says boils down to, "A lot of people take these things out of context and then get all aggrieved when they don't know all the facts." She does not ever say that YOU don't know the facts -- just that the coffee case is one that a lot of people use without knowing the facts.

Then you got rude. I believe I've already quoted that.

I'm perfectly willing to let it drop - just waiting for you to.

You're completely free to judge the coffee case however you like. After reading the article that someone else linked up above, I'm much more favorably inclined toward the plaintiff, whom I'd initially considered silly and stupid. You don't have to be -- you are free to have your own opinions, and I can certainly understand yours. But taking offense when offense was not given, and then being rude because of this perceived insult, doesn't really move the conversation along.

In any event, if Dwarf would come back and tell us what kind of knife it was, we'd all have much better grounds for discussion...

 

[Emiricol]

I'm only rude when I feel it warranted. Presumably you've never done likewise - oh wait, you did it when you weren't even part of the conversation. Oops. Maybe we can chalk *that* up to a difference of opinion too.

Still waiting.

 

[Tom Cashel]

That's about enough of that.

Thread closed.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

That's about enough of that.

Thread closed.

um, your tag says "member" not "moderator"....

Kahuna burger

 

[Tom Cashel]

Consider yourself banned, Kahuna.