[OT] White Wolf's Exalted? Is this a good or bad product?

reutbing0, thanks for putting the link up. By the way, White Wolf published hard copies of the Tomb of Five Corners. They're supposed to be free, so you might want to check your FLGS to see if they have copies. Otherwise, frpgames.com has them (they're still "free," but you have to pay shipping and handling).

Regardless, I highly recomend you download Tomb of Five Corners. It costs you nothing and it will give you a strong dose of the setting and rules.

Finally, I know jack about anime, but I still love this game. As for the Asian influences, the only places I've really seen them are in the heavy use of martial arts, the way the Realm Script looks, the spirit courts/Immaculate Order, and the five elements (fire, air, water, wood, and earth). And, of course, the daiklaves (gigantic swords) and warstriders (mecha suits). I haven't used warstriders in my campaign, and I think I'll continue to ignore them--you can easily rule them out.

That sounds like a lot of Asian influence, until you think that everything else isn't influenced that way. The South has a 1,001 Arabian nights feel, the North a viking/barbarian feel, the East a gigantic forest feel, and the West a Waterworld-if-it-was-done-well feel. And if you like Conan, the Scavenger Lands is what you're looking for, in my opinion.

Personally, I think the Realm, missing Scarlet Empress and all, is more based on the Roman Empire or a European feudal system than any real world Asian empire that I'm aware of. They have a Senate that is very Roman, for instance. I view the Dragon-Blooded more as the landed nobility than as a samurai warrior caste. Yes, the Realm's history has it as a Shogunate, but that's its history. Until we see a pre-Scarlet Empress sourcebook, I still say the modern Realm is more Roman than anything else.

I think the biggest sign that the anime/Asian influence only goes so far is that the cultures don't have the constant pressure of politeness, social station, bowing, lack of visible emotion (I'm talking stereotypical Asian-influenced fantasy here, like Rokugan or something, NOT real life, I mean no offense) weighing on everything. Also, slavery is rampant, and I'm pretty sure that that's not much of a real-world Asian deal. Then again, my degree is in business, not history.

That said, Wraith Lord, don't take my, or anyone else's word on what the feel of Exalted is, make your own opinion. My suggestion is to download all the free stuff that you can and then, if you're still interested, go to Border's or some bookstore that will let you sit and read for free, and spend some time with the core book. I hope you'll be a new Exalted fan, as more fans improves the game, but I won't cry if you don't like it. :)
 

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Personally, I think the Realm, missing Scarlet Empress and all, is more based on the Roman Empire or a European feudal system than any real world Asian empire that I'm aware of. They have a Senate that is very Roman, for instance. I view the Dragon-Blooded more as the landed nobility than as a samurai warrior caste. Yes, the Realm's history has it as a Shogunate, but that's its history. Until we see a pre-Scarlet Empress sourcebook, I still say the modern Realm is more Roman than anything else.
I'd say the Realm is mostly Chinese, but like everything else in Exalted it's not a straight porting over. The Deliberative (senate) has comparatively little power in the Realm - the bureaucracy and dynastic houses are far more important to what gets done. Sure, there are elements of Rome too, but I think China is a stronger inspiration - maybe about 50% China, 35% Rome, and 15% other stuff.
 



Cool setting, but system doesn't work right

Oh, and be warned: Fights in exalted, although quite exhillarating, take hours.

This is very true, especially as the characters gain experience, and I found this kind of hurt the system. D20 is quick and transparent, which allows you to focus on whats happening in the battle. Exalted's mass dice rolling slows things down so much that it distracts from the battle. Much as I enjoy rolling in Exalted more than in D&D (it is just more fun), it slows the game down too much, especially when an experienced character uses a charm to take lots of extra attacks. So, while it is a good system, D20 is better suited to super-characters, because dice rolling takes so much less time. In Exalted, the massive amounts of dice defeat the fast pace the combat should have.

Exalted is still worth picking up for the setting, and one could pretty easily convert the charms into feats - which is probably what I will do.
 
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As you become acustom to the system, fights (and everything else) go quicker in Exalted. My group and I have played Storyteller based games for years, and fights tend to go fairly smoothly and quickly for us.
 

I wasn't very impressed with BoTC (the origin of Exalted magic was especially hokey and doesn't fit the setting very well), but the fatsplats (especially Abyssals) are well worth the dough. And the game just rocks.
 

I've been collecting the Exalted books for the past two years now - I have all of them...

I just started really reading them last week. Exalted is crack in gaming form. I have a D&D campaign I'm supposed to be running but I can't help it!

Argh.

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Exalted has a whole assortment of various flavors, some will speak to you more than others, but they are all easily removed components.

White Wolf intends to capture a 5 year (or so) period, and most of their material echoes this. It's been stated that, after this time frame, the influence of the PCs would be so great that it would be impossible to accomodate the full scope of their actions.

Which speaks of the game itself a great deal.
 

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