[OT] www.dmb-bustedstuff.com

[SpikeyFreak]

I used to be in a similar situation.

But saying that all thier songs are the same is silly.

--Soft Spikey

 

[Mystic Eye]

Well, being a big fan of DMB I can't disagree more with those who speak against the band. Music, much like PRG stuff, is very much a matter of personal taste so I don't blame any one for their lack of taste in not liking DMB (JUST JOKING)!

I will point out that DMB has been noted as one of the top five live bands in the country. The last two DMB concerts I went to wer all sold out, one with some 30,000 people.
The awesome thing about a DMB concert is the tremendously wide range of ages and races that all come together to enjoy their music. It is amazing.

The drummer for DMB is noted as one of the best in the business as well as their wind instrument player who can play over eight different types of wind instruments.

Also, the fiddle player is just to darn cool, especially live.

 

[herald]

So DMB is one of the top 5 touring bands...today.
That hardly qualifies them as good.
Ii does qualify them as popular.

I'm just not in to trendy music.

I'll take Bonnie Raitt over DMB every time.

 

[Xar666]

Re: Re: Re: Phil Collins Syndrome

Dave Matthews "music" consists almost entirely of lazy, uninspired drum work

Ok, seriously, you can outright hate DMB but this statement is ignorant. Carter Beauford has been recognized by drummers ranging from Death Metal to Jazz as being one of the best in popular music today. No one plays the complex polyrythms that man pulls off in modern popular music, period.

breathy, untalented, garbled voice work

I will concede this point. Some people don’t like his voice and I can understand that.

a guitarist who picks three cords from his repertoire of 5 and plays them in an endless loop for the entire song.

Uh, he plays in ninths. Is he the most technical guitarist? No. However his stretches and unconventional chord voicings, matched with his excellent writing skills make his playing extremely original. You say he plays five chords in a loop? He is a RHYTHM guitarist. That is what he does. And it is much harder to play what Dave Matthews plays than all the other lame rock band guitarists out there right now that play open chords in the key of E, C or A and power chords in E minor.

Before anyone accuses me of not having listened to enough of his music, let me assure you that I've heard more than any reasoning being should. I used to live in a building with a guy who thought Dave Matthews was God's last gift to Creation. He used to crank his stereo with Dave Matthews 12-14 hours a day. He would open his windows, crank his stereo, and then lock his door and leave. He claimed it was a public service. So I've heard plenty of the alleged music. My concept of the 10th level of hell is being strapped to a chair and listening to Dave Matthews and gangster rap for the rest of eternity. NOTE: the 10th level is reserved for those who manage to out-evil Satan himself. Specifically, telemarketers and people who drive SUVs.

Musical tastes are subjective. You can say you hate them and their music. Fine, that is your opinion. However, to say they suck is a lie. I just don’t understand the hatred toward DMB. In a world full of manufactured crap where no artists play instruments or write their own music/lyrics, how people can have such disgust for them. They write all the music and lyrics and play all the music. They are totally humble and good people. Dave Matthews himself drives a 1992 Subaru outback. There is so much crap in the music industry, how could one not at least respect them?

 

[Xar666]

I'm just not in to trendy music.

I only follow 3 popular bands:

Nine Inch Nails
Tool
DMB

The first two are only pseudo popular.

I rarely listen to radio. To not explore an artist’s music solely based on their popularity level whether it be high or low is extremely limiting.

P.S. Bonnie Raitt is trendy.

 

[Airwolf]

Re: Phil Collins Syndrome

Dave Matthews IMO suffers from what I call "Phil Collins Syndrome"...

All his songs sound the same.

Dave Matthews sings more than one song? Wow, I've really got to pay more attention.

 

[Mystic Eye]

So DMB is one of the top 5 touring bands...today.
That hardly qualifies them as good.
Ii does qualify them as popular.

I'm just not in to trendy music.

I'll take Bonnie Raitt over DMB every time.

I don't know if I would call DMB trendy. They are listed as alternative but don't sound like alternative. They sound more like blues or jazz which is not all that trendy in my mind. Brittany Spears is trendy, poular and, except for having a hot young body, is not vocally talented. Her concerts are more about dancing and shaking that thang.

DMB just sings and plays with little hype. I cannot imagine, if they were terrible, they would be popular at all because they are certainly not popular due to being flashy or trendy.

And while I like Bonnie Raitt I would not think to go see her in concert unless I was asked but that is all personal taste.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Phil Collins Syndrome

In a world full of manufactured crap where no artists play instruments or write their own music/lyrics, how people can have such disgust for them. They write all the music and lyrics and play all the music. They are totally humble and good people. Dave Matthews himself drives a 1992 Subaru outback. There is so much crap in the music industry, how could not at least respect them?

I prefaced my post with this statement "The rest of this post is a strongly held opinion that fans of Dave Matthews probably don't want to read." I thought that was pretty clear.

I stated right off the bat that it was an OPINION. I am well aware that my personal history (as detailed in the post) may have colored my perception of their music. It is also my opinion that many current drummers "from death metal to jazz" and everywhere in between are also uninspired. I haven't been impressed by drum work but once or twice in a LONG time. Again, this is an opinion, but being the best of what's out there right now is like being the best-looking guy in the leper colony.

As for the guitar thing, it is also my opinion that rock (and pseudo-rock) bands should have a LEAD GUITAR. I love rhythm guitar. But I think it's natural place is BEHIND the lead. And, again, he may be very good by current standards, but put him next to a mediocre guitarist from the heydey of rock (which is apparently regarded as ancient history) and he doesn't impress. Heck, put him next to a bunch of local amateurs I know and he doesn't impress. But again, this could be an artifact of my opinion.

I agree with you that musical tastes are subjective. Furthermore, I never said they sucked. In my personal opinion, they DO suck. But I never said that in the last post, and I wouldn't make a blanket statement like that without making it clear (as I did here) that it was my opinion.

I also agree that there's something redeeming in the fact that they play their own instruments. And they have balls for letting that guy sing. But I don't think that makes them good people. And driving a Subaru doesn't mean he's a humble man. It means he has poor taste in vehicles. And that he has even less imagination for what to do with his money than he does for writing songs. But we're getting back into my opinions there.

It's also my opinion that I could have saved a lot of time by saying "this is my opinion" once at the beginning of the post and having it apply globally, but I guess that doesn't work anymore.

 

[herald]

Bonnie Raitt is not trendy. This is a person who has expanded Folk, Jazz and Blues more than anyone else currently alive. She has been the leader in defying the record industry from labeling musicians in to the pidgen-hole chart names that has ruined the art that is music.

I would take her guitar stylings anytime over DMB.

And nobody explores a musician songs because they are trendy or not trendy. People explore them because they apeal to them. DMB has had years to come up with a song that I feel that has any merit. Since they haven't, I don't buy thier CD's.

I tried, trust me. I have plenty of music stores where I can sample all thier songs, I have listened to thier music at partys. I my opinion, they still sound like a whiney pretentious art band.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

I don't know if I would call DMB trendy. They are listed as alternative but don't sound like alternative. They sound more like blues or jazz which is not all that trendy in my mind.

DMB just sings and plays with little hype. I cannot imagine, if they were terrible, they would be popular at all because they are certainly not popular due to being flashy or trendy.

If I were a touchier person, I would consider this a grave insult to blues and jazz. Luckily, I'm not.

Furthermore, DMB was born into hype. When I was finishing up college, they were the IT thing, and you were socially required to enjoy them or be ridiculed by both the mindless trend-followers and the goatee stroking alterna-nuts. These, of course, are the two most socially vocal segments of the college population. So let's not pretend DMB hasn't been the beneficiary of a great deal of hype. And if they're not uber-trendy now, they sure were 3-4 years ago.