Outcasts Forever: Issue #1 - Red America

[Keia]

Main Assembly Room
Sub-basement level one
Avengers Mansion

"Sandra, who are each of the people we are looking at?" He did not look at any of the others in the room, just continued to study the Supreme Soviets.

“Their English names are as follows: Darkstar, Red Hawk, Titanium Man, Black Widow, Crimson Dynamo, Colussus, and Comrade Russia. Names you may be more familiar with on two of them are Hawkeye and Captain America,” Sandra replied.

Vision watches the images that appear and listens to what Sandra has to say. Since it is so different from our timelines how will we know what the turning point is in this world?

“I hope to confirm my theories with our discussion,” Sandra replied. “If that information is not concrete, then you will need to access their computers and retrieve more conclusive information. Based on my research, Darkstar, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo are all Russian supers, Colussus and Black Widow were Russian but defected or left, and Hawkeye and Captain America are Americans. This would indicate that the problem would be with the latter duo. Real names for Red Hawk and Comrade Russia are Clint Barton and Steve Rogers.”

“According to local newspaper information from that timeline, America was conquered by the Russians in the late 1960’s. This was after several of the newly discovered super heroes in America either disappeared or defected to Russia, with the final one being Captain America in 1967. America surrendered within a year, with only minor casualities on either side. It was hailed as one of the most blood-less wars of all time.”

“The only significant variant that I can determine is that Captain America did not disappear for decades after World War II. He and his colleague, Bucky, continued their exploits in Germany, the rest of Europe, and America. They had several run-ins in the 1960’s with russian heroes with no conclusive resolution. In addition, neither Colussus, nor Black Widow ever defected,” Sandra completed.

 

[Kevin Perrine]

Mr. Immortal takes charge

“I hope to confirm my theories with our discussion,” Sandra replied. “If that information is not concrete, then you will need to access their computers and retrieve more conclusive information. Based on my research, Darkstar, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo are all Russian supers, Colussus and Black Widow were Russian but defected or left, and Hawkeye and Captain America are Americans. This would indicate that the problem would be with the latter duo. Real names for Red Hawk and Comrade Russia are Clint Barton and Steve Rogers.”

“... America surrendered within a year, with only minor casualities on either side. It was hailed as one of the most blood-less wars of all time.”

“The only significant variant that I can determine is that Captain America did not disappear for decades after World War II. He and his colleague, Bucky, continued their exploits in Germany, the rest of Europe, and America. They had several run-ins in the 1960’s with russian heroes with no conclusive resolution. In addition, neither Colussus, nor Black Widow ever defected,” Sandra completed.

"Whoooa..."
Craig uttered in a very Keanuian-way...
as he sat back in his chair slumping a bit to take it all in......
say it ain't so is the first thoughts that kept racing through his mind, but it would appear that it WAS so, at least in some other timestream thing.
At the same time Craig was exhillerated by being able to help in this truely "AVENGER" quality crisis but also feeling a lump in his throat at the thought that the fate of the world could have turned so easily...

As quickly as he could Mr. Immortal pieced together some questions to raise for the others to consider, Craig hoped that they wouldn't seem too remedial.

"wow... geeze... so Cap, how much different is this from your background - ah'm not meaning to pry, but Sandra mentioned the other dimension's Cap and Bucky...
Ah know it's your super soldier serum that kept you in suspended animation all those years 'on ice' but should be be able to assume that THEIR Cap is you... er... you meaning it's the you from their timeline.
As he spoke Craig came to realize that if that was so, he'd inadvertently gotten to learn that Captain America's secret Identity was probably "Steve Rogers" if he truely was the same as their timeline...
"No disrespect Cap, but if we can assume that their Cap is Rogers wouldn't he be like really old in that 40 years? Or would the serum keep you young? Should we be looking for the man known as Bucky, if he might have taken over the mantle of Captain America in their timeline? Or ... Craig realized he was sort of talking in circles and getting more confused himself.
But then he came to a point of conclusion and sat up to "take charge" as Mr. Immortal is prone to do from time to time with his former leadership responsibilities...
as Mr. Immortal stood to begin walking around the table "thinking on his feet" ... Much more assertively this time -

"Sandra... do we have the identities of the suspects on file for the alternate timeline? and if not do we have identities on them in our reality?
Speaking of OUR reality, from what sources can YOU draw info from on the Avenger Computer logs? Do we have full access to MY timeline's data, as well as Sandman's and the other's individual timeline data?

If so, can we begin a full 'google' on Darkstar, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo Colussus and Black Widow. We have confirmed IDs for Red Hawk (aka. Hawkeye, Clint Barton) and Comrade Russia (aka. Cap, Steve Rodger), can get get full IDs on the others based on the assumption that our timeline's share common identities.

What about a rundown of the main associates of those supers. It might be helpful to have knowledge of the X-men, and other heroes and with all due respect Cap - even Bucky...
We might be able to use those folks aid allies in the fight or if nothing else to help us track down their team in civilian identity to handle them individually if possible.

It would also be helpful to get bios on each of these folks for tactical to work up best approach if agressive action is necessary...

Looking around at his new team, hoping he hadn't overstepped his grounds, Mr. I continued...

... whadya think fellas?...

 

[Radiant]

Binary

"Incredible. To think of the widow and Hawkeye as enemies.
But Cap, that's just unthinkable. I only met collosus once then we travelled to the brood world but I can't imagine him as a villain either. At least they don't have the real powerhouses like Thor around."
She looks over the assmbled soviets, trying to make sense of it.
"I can't imagine that all these heroes just turned to the wrong side. There must be some reason they are doing it.

 

[Mimic]

Vision

It would seem the sudden defection of that world's Captain America and the ease of which the United States surrendered to the USSR would be the key turning point. If of course that is what is causing the disturbances in the timelines, without further information it will be difficult to acurately determine whethere it is correct or not. Vision tells the rest of the group.

Do we know what the correct history of this world should be? Without a point of reference to work with it will be nearly impossible to correct whatever has gone wrong. He tells the holographic woman.

 

[Arani Korden]

Beast

"Incredible. To think of the widow and Hawkeye as enemies.
But Cap, that's just unthinkable. I only met collosus once then we travelled to the brood world but I can't imagine him as a villain either. At least they don't have the real powerhouses like Thor around."
She looks over the assmbled soviets, trying to make sense of it.
"I can't imagine that all these heroes just turned to the wrong side. There must be some reason they are doing it.

Hank took a slow sip of coffee, and then nodded. "Something's wrong. Some sort of mind control is the obvious guess, in which case we'll have to be very careful; unless my timeline has diverged more than I know, I don't see any telepaths on the team. The Professor and I were working on a Neural Protection Field, but it was pretty inefficient - Jean was able to punch right through it, even before . . . well. It wouldn't really protect against a mind able to do what we're thinking it did.

And there are other possibilities as well - clones, Commie vampires, even drastically different personalities and economic variables."

ooc: Sorry about the delay in posting; I've been having computer troubles, but they're over for now.

 

[Nuke261]

"Incredible. To think of the Widow and Hawkeye as enemies. But Cap, that's just unthinkable. I only met Collosus once when we travelled to the Brood world but I can't imagine him as a villain either. At least they don't have the real powerhouses like Thor around."
She looks over the assmbled soviets, trying to make sense of it.
"I can't imagine that all these heroes just turned to the wrong side. There must be some reason they are doing it.

"They didn't turn to the wrong side. They turned to the only side left." Captain America did not move from his chair. He sat with his elbows propped and his hands folded in front of his face. His head did not turn, only his eyes moved as he watched the others in the room speak.

"The 1960's. The Soviet Union takes over the United States. If we're from realities where some of us have never met or heard of one another then how hard is it believe that there is a reality where Russia became the dominant super power instead of the U.S.?"

"I have no idea what caused this turn of events but I have a very strong suspicion that Captain America and Bucky remaining active as Super Heroes plays a part. Actually, Mr. Immortal brings up a good point. In my reality Steve Rogers was never frozen either. That means the variable is Bucky. The first Bucky. I'm not sure what Steve's reason for trading in the Stars and Stripes was but I guess we can deal with that when we get there." His eyes moved slowly around the room and then back to the image of the Supreme Soviets.

Better dead than Red.

"Sandra, once we're there what will you need us to do. What kind of data do we need to supply you with. I don't think we are going to have a lot of time to sight see. Once a group of unknown super heroes drops into Soviet occupied territory we probably won't have much time for chit-chat."

"Especially once they see me."

 

[Radiant]

"Even if it is the only side left I can't imagine all of them turning. Suppose some have a different personality than in our realities but sure at least some have to be close to what we know. But whatever their attitude, we're sure to get into trouble with them. I can't imagine them leaving us alone for very long."
With a sigh she looks at Captain America's uniform.
"We should go a little less flashy. Hiding our costumes could help a lot."
Great, I'm starting to sound like Corsair with all his tricks. Getting right through the front door and blasting things apart is more my style.

 

[Keia]

Main Assembly Room
Sub-basement level one
Avengers Mansion

"Sandra... do we have the identities of the suspects on file for the alternate timeline? and if not do we have identities on them in our reality? Speaking of OUR reality, from what sources can YOU draw info from on the Avenger Computer logs? Do we have full access to MY timeline's data, as well as Sandman's and the other's individual timeline data?

If so, can we begin a full 'google' on Darkstar, Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo Colussus and Black Widow. We have confirmed IDs for Red Hawk (aka. Hawkeye, Clint Barton) and Comrade Russia (aka. Cap, Steve Rodger), can get get full IDs on the others based on the assumption that our timeline's share common identities.

What about a rundown of the main associates of those supers. It might be helpful to have knowledge of the X-men, and other heroes and with all due respect Cap - even Bucky...
We might be able to use those folks aid allies in the fight or if nothing else to help us track down their team in civilian identity to handle them individually if possible.

It would also be helpful to get bios on each of these folks for tactical to work up best approach if agressive action is necessary...

Looking around at his new team, hoping he hadn't overstepped his grounds, Mr. I continued...

... whadya think fellas?...

Sandra smiled benignly at the stream of words coming from Mt. Immortal. When she was relatively certain it had stopped, she began, answering as many questions as she could remember. “I can draw from two timelines worth of data at a time: mine and the reality we currently are in. I have some details from the Avengers computer on each of you during your timeline from the Avengers computer of that time.”

“There is no freedom of information in this timeline such that you may be familiar with in your own. There was no internet for public consumption. Main associates of this super team primarily consist of special forces units which back them up and other ‘supers’ in the area. There is an ‘X-men’ team, though there is no Charles Xavier. According to local archives, he was arrested in Russia as a spy, imprisoned and executed shortly thereafter. The mutant team was reported to be in Florida, assisting those in need from a recent mudslides and floods. There is still a S.H.I.E.L.D., though no one knows who is in charge of it.”

“The bios are of the Supreme Soviets are all of a political and media-hype nature, there isn’t a decent information stream that can be determined,” Sandra finished.

Do we know what the correct history of this world should be? Without a point of reference to work with it will be nearly impossible to correct whatever has gone wrong. He tells the holographic woman.

“I should be able to determine the correct point of reference, once you have access to the computer database of the Supreme Soviet,” Sandra explained. “The correct history is uncertain until the turning point can be determined and corrected, though it would not be too far off the histories from your realities . . . except for you Sandman.”

"Sandra, once we're there what will you need us to do. What kind of data do we need to supply you with. I don't think we are going to have a lot of time to sight see. Once a group of unknown super heroes drops into Soviet occupied territory we probably won't have much time for chit-chat."

"Especially once they see me."

“You will need to infiltrate the Supreme Soviet base in New York, either by force or by stealth. Once inside, you will need to access the base computer. I will give the Vision a secure transmission signal to send the data to the Mansion for processing. While I am accomplishing that, sift through their logs to see if any clues turn up. Once complete, return to the Mansion and we shall head to the proper time to correct this timeline,” Sandra finished.

 

[Mimic]

Vision

"We should go a little less flashy. Hiding our costumes could help a lot."

That could prove difficult, especially with myself and the Beast.* Vision states to Binary. Although stealth would be preferred, most of us here are not suited for that, although some of us do have abilites that could help us enter undetected, he says looking towards the Sandman. That is of course if your abilities are the same as what is in my database.
<*ooc: I am not certain what the beast looks like, but I am assuming that he doesn't look all that normal.>

 

[Arani Korden]

ooc Beast

<*ooc: I am not certain what the beast looks like, but I am assuming that he doesn't look all that normal.>

Classic Beast - blue, furry, and apelike.