Outcasts Forever: Issue #1 - Red America

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The Falcon

The Falcon piped up, "Just to play devil's advocate here, we have no proof that this timeline is indeed messed up other than the word of a hologram I've never met before today. Before we go off half-cocked and get ourselves into trouble, here's a question: We know we should be getting involved in all this how?"
 

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Sandman

Originally posted by Vision
That could prove difficult, especially with myself and the Beast.* Vision states to Binary. Although stealth would be preferred, most of us here are not suited for that, although some of us do have abilites that could help us enter undetected, he says looking towards the Sandman. That is of course if your abilities are the same as what is in my database.

Flint smirked at the question. Chuckling once, he replied, "How the hell should I know? You seen my powers twice today, you tell me if I'm like 'your Sandman,' buddy."

Looking around the table, Flint continued. "If air can get past somethin' then so can I, more'n likely. And, I'm guessin' if we're gonna do the job with stealth, ol' Vision an' me are gonna be the best candidates for knockin' down the Russkies' doors."
 

Beast

kid A said:
Looking around the table, Flint continued. "If air can get past somethin' then so can I, more'n likely. And, I'm guessin' if we're gonna do the job with stealth, ol' Vision an' me are gonna be the best candidates for knockin' down the Russkies' doors."

"And once we're inside, I should be able to handle the computer." Hank grinned suddenly. "I think I've got an image inducer in my luggage, so I may not be quite so conspicuous after all."
 

Binary

Mark Chance said:
The Falcon piped up, "Just to play devil's advocate here, we have no proof that this timeline is indeed messed up other than the word of a hologram I've never met before today. Before we go off half-cocked and get ourselves into trouble, here's a question: We know we should be getting involved in all this how?"

Carol blinks and tries to keep the surprise out of her face.
"The russians rule America. That's enough reason for me to believe something isn't right."
I should feel more about it. Carol worked for Shield. She was born here. And still even knowing I am her I just can't care as I should. Memories without feelings. Sometimes I wonder if Charles should have just left me without them.
 
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Radiant said:
Carol blinks and tries to keep the surprise out of her face.
"The russians rule America. That's enough reason for me to believe something isn't right."

Falcon shakes his head. "I'm not clear enough. We have only Sandra's word that this world's timeline is not the way it is supposed to be. In my timeline, the U.S.S.R. ceased being the evil empire more than a decade ago. The various, former U.S.S.R. satellites are independent nations. Sure, they have their problems, but no country emerges from eighty years of Communist oppression into a golden age. We need to move cautiously. We need to be certain that what we are doing here is both just and reasonable, and isn't going screw things up more than they already are."

Redwing nods and squawks in agreement.

"So, if we're going covert, we ditch the costumes, and we gather information first. A fight, whether in a court room or a bar room, is better fought with a solid plan for both offense and defense. Heck, right now, we can't even be one-hundred percent certain who the real enemy is."

The Falcon directs a pointed glance at Sandra.
 

Captain America

Captain America remained in his seat as he listened to the others debate their plan.

"I agree with the Falcon, we do need a plan. However, if we are to believe Sandra and that we will be travelling to various realities to right that world's problems and send them on their intended path, we can't really take the time to learn their culture and history and decide if our mission is right or not."

He lowered his hands down to the armrests of his chair and looked up at the team. He slowly sat upright as he spoke. It seemed almost as if his words were meant to inspire himself as well as them.

"The fact that the Soviet Union seems to be the dominant super power on this world obviously affects many of us on different levels. The last time I checked however, none of us were politicians. That being the case, I ask each of you to keep in mind that this world's heroes and who they work for are not our concern. We will travel to their world, research the issue at hand and then do what is necessary to remedy it. This means we will deal with these heroes the same as we would the X-Men, the Fantastic Four or the Squadron Supreme. Since I know that no one at this table will have a problem acting like the professionals we are, I suggest we concentrate on the actual task at hand."

He sat silently looking back at the team. His voice never changed. he did not become stern or angry yet everyone in the room felt that he meant business.
 

Main Assembly Room
Sub-basement level one
Avengers Mansion


Sandra listened to the exchange but did not comment. These issues had been discussed hundreds of times already . . . this time was no different. At the appropriate moment she offered additional information.

“The current Avengers Mansion site is being used as a home for the children of those fallen in matters of the state. The current headmaster is a Mr. Edwin Jarvis,” Sandra said. “When we arrive in their timeline, we will be exiting from that location – essentially we will be overlaid against the Stark Manor. While we have a presence, when you enter the Stark Manor you will actually be entering your Avengers Mansion. Please be careful of others entering at the precise moment you do through the same doorway – they may come through as well.”

“The Supreme Soviets are stationed on an peninsula approximately 6.6 miles away. Three-story building, fenced land of approximately 22 acres. Much of the peninsula is guarded either through technology or those on monitor duty. There are no patrols in the area. The current whereabouts of any of the Supreme Soviet is unknown.”


Falcon said:
" . . . We need to be certain that what we are doing here is both just and reasonable, and isn't going screw things up more than they already are."

Sandra stopped her rotation facing Falcon, her blue eyes appear to almost look into Falcon’s own. “Falcon, if things were much more ‘screwed up’ than they already are, this timeline would simply cease to exist . . . or worse shatter, perhaps taking several other nearby timelines with it. The lives lost have been . . . would be catastrophic. Are you personally willing to sacrifice those lives, simply to ascertain if you are ‘right’?”
 

Mr. Immortal's input

Keia said:
Sandra stopped her rotation facing Falcon, her blue eyes appear to almost look into Falcon’s own. “Falcon, if things were much more ‘screwed up’ than they already are, this timeline would simply cease to exist . . . or worse shatter, perhaps taking several other nearby timelines with it. The lives lost have been . . . would be catastrophic. Are you personally willing to sacrifice those lives, simply to ascertain if you are ‘right’?”


"Geez lady - Falcon's just makin sure we're doin' the right thing... You sure are sensitive for a hologram, heck - we're puttin our lives on the line give us a little slack wouldja..."
Craig quipped in defense of his new teammate...

as he continued
"... now like Cap said - let's stop the yappin' and get to it! Looks to me like - me, Sandman an' Binary, an' maybe MoonKnight would probably be the best for any front line talkie talk with the other side...
If we're talkin about no goin no costume.

Vision and Beast are obviously out for going low profile, Cap might get suspected since they will probably recognize you from the Cap in their reality if you're out of costume, an' Falcon .... well - NO disrespect but if it's a Russian-ruled America like the Russian from mah reality, they might get ancy racially speaking....

If their world's anything like the reality ah'm from our non-standard team membership alone could be our best offense... They probably won't have any idea who 'WE' are.
heheh, ah never thought it would PAY OFF to have been a C-level hero in the past!"
;)

Craig had no clue if his imput would be really useful - it sure sounded good as he made it up as it came out of his mouth... That's what he usually did when leading the Lightning Bolts (aka. the Great Lakes Avengers). Craig knew as well as anyone that being a leader was more about how positive and sure of yourself you could sound when being the leader.
He'd learned that from Jean Luc Picard.......

Craig looked around, seeming ready to get up to get the plan moving and avoid more talking.
 

Keia said:
Sandra stopped her rotation facing Falcon, her blue eyes appear to almost look into Falcon’s own. “Falcon, if things were much more ‘screwed up’ than they already are, this timeline would simply cease to exist . . . or worse shatter, perhaps taking several other nearby timelines with it. The lives lost have been . . . would be catastrophic. Are you personally willing to sacrifice those lives, simply to ascertain if you are ‘right’?”

The Falcon winks at Mr. Immortal and then rolls his eyes at Sandra. "Don't preach at me, girl. You don't have the credibility or the moral authority. For all we know, you are the source of the problems, and we're here because you figure we're gullible enough to swallow your tale hook, line, and sinker. It wouldn't be the first time someone tried to use me to hurt good people."

He turns to Cap.

"So what's the plan, Cap? You call the shots because you have earned that right."
 
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Binary

Carol looks at the Falcon for a long moment but in the end decides to keep silent. No one would profit from another senseless discussion and he had some valid points.
"I agree, the supreme soviets are probably just doing what they think is right. Even if the soviets won the war someone still has to stop all these supervillains out to conquer, destroy, or whatever else they want to do with the world. Let's go find out what's up. I don't think Sandra is trying to trick us."
This time she smiles at the Falcon but in doesn't look pleasant at all.
"But if your susprions are correct and we find out someone's playing us I promise you he'll regret it."
Whithout conscious though white-hot fire races over he face as she connects to the power of a white star for only the fraction of a second.
 

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