Pathfinder 1E [Paizo] Dragon #317

[irdeggman]

After having read the section on Urban Druids (I just got my copy the other day) it seems based very closely on Pavel the templer/druid from the Dark Sun novels. He actually tapped into the spirit of the city which is pretty much what the description of the urban druid is about.

 

[Razz]

After having read the section on Urban Druids (I just got my copy the other day) it seems based very closely on Pavel the templer/druid from the Dark Sun novels. He actually tapped into the spirit of the city which is pretty much what the description of the urban druid is about.

I am assuming the Urban Druids have their own spell list. What do they consist of? If it has its own spell list, I have some work to do as to incorporatring spells from other non-core WotC products into their spell list.

 

[irdeggman]

Let’s see, Urban Druid Spell List

0 –level
Create water
Cure minor wounds
detect magic
detect poison
guidance
know direction
light
mending
purify food and drink
read magic
repair minor damage*
resistance
virtue

1st – level
alarm
animate rope
charm person
comprehend languages
cure light wounds
detect secret doors
detect undead
endure elements
faerie fire
hold portal
jump
longstrider
magic fang
magic mouth
magic stone
obscure object
obscuring mist
pass without trace
repair light damage*
scatterspray

2nd-level
barkskin
bear’s endurance
bull’s strength
calm emotions
cat’s grace
chill metal
delay poison
detect thoughts
eagle’s splendor
enthrall
fog cloud
heat metal
hold person
knock
lesser restoration
locate object
misdirection
owl’s wisdom
resist energy
repair moderate damage*
rope trick
spider climb
suggestion
summon swarm
warp wod
wood shape

and so on. . . you get the gist of it.

They also added some new urban druid spells like Susurrus of the City which awakens the voice of the city and causes a vacant building to speak and city gate – which is a modified teleport spell.

The spell’s with an * printed in the article, the repair damage spells were originally in Tome and Blood but have been updated (3.5’d versions)

There is a separate list of alternate urban companions starting at 4th level and their initial list is greatly restricted to those found in an urban setting like small animated object, cats, dogs, horses, rats, etc.


All in all a very interesting class for use in an urban setting. Check out the mag for more of the details though.

 

[Ranger REG]

Hey, it's been done at least, and not by Rokugan.

AFAIC, the Ninja Spy prestige class is not Rokugan-specific. Even the AEG version of the Ninja core class is not Rokugan-specific. I can port it out and use it in any Asian-flavored campaign.

The fact that I hated CW Samurai make me look at my OA once more and have since then soften my stance. I still hate Rokugan but at least the OA Samurai is more flexible and prone to customization than the "Western" version of CW Samurai.

Who knows? The Ninja class in the upcoming Dragon may turn out to be a "Western" version.

 

[Razz]

AFAIC, the Ninja Spy prestige class is not Rokugan-specific. Even the AEG version of the Ninja core class is not Rokugan-specific. I can port it out and use it in any Asian-flavored campaign.

The fact that I hated CW Samurai make me look at my OA once more and have since then soften my stance. I still hate Rokugan but at least the OA Samurai is more flexible and prone to customization than the "Western" version of CW Samurai.

Who knows? The Ninja class in the upcoming Dragon may turn out to be a "Western" version.

Aghhh! Don't scare me like that!! *shivers*

I will compare Rokugans to Dragon's core ninja. The thing about the core ninja was that they were missing a couple of things, mainly evasion. So I am hoping the Dragon one will turn out better than Rokugan's.

Now, AEG has yet to do a 3.5 Ninja for their games, I think the Rokugan Ninja should be spruced up similar to the way the Ranger in 3.5 was spruced up. Give it evasion, hide in plain sight (shadows only), and acrobatics (higher bonuses to Balance, Jump, and Tumble) and a 3.5 Rokugan-core ninja is set to go.

Actually, I remember your posts on the Kara-Tur boards and you seem to be a die-hard Kara-Tur fan like myself. If you remember correctly, the CW Samurai actually matches the Kara-Tur Samurai from 1E OA a lot more than the Rokugan-Samurai did.

I think I will allow both versions of Samurai in my OA campaign, to reflect different cultures and styles. Maybe I will use the CW Samurai in places like Shou Lung and Tu'Lung and Rokugan-Samurai in Wa and Kozakura.

Though, I will admit the Rokugan-Samurai was good for its flexibility.

 

[Razz]

One question to everyone here:

Is there anyone that HAS NOT yet received Dragon #317? I have been waiting since news of it arriving in people's hands reached me. I live in Missouri, anyone in the Mid-West area actually get theirs yet?

 

[Vocenoctum]

One question to everyone here:

Is there anyone that HAS NOT yet received Dragon #317? I have been waiting since news of it arriving in people's hands reached me. I live in Missouri, anyone in the Mid-West area actually get theirs yet?

I haven't recieved mine yet. Florida though

 

[Ranger REG]

Actually, I remember your posts on the Kara-Tur boards and you seem to be a die-hard Kara-Tur fan like myself. If you remember correctly, the CW Samurai actually matches the Kara-Tur Samurai from 1E OA a lot more than the Rokugan-Samurai did.

Not exactly, the 1e Samurai is not a two-weapon specialist, but a katana specialist. It also offers bow specialization as well, so much like the archetypal Samurai I know, not "Western." Not everyone is a Musashi. (Look it up.)

Heck, compared to 1e and CW versions, even the oldie beat that new one by a league.

I think I will allow both versions of Samurai in my OA campaign, to reflect different cultures and styles. Maybe I will use the CW Samurai in places like Shou Lung and Tu'Lung and Rokugan-Samurai in Wa and Kozakura.

You cannot be serious. Shou noble warriors as two-weapon specialists? What's next for you, Haoles, a pseudo-Polynesian in chainmail? A pseudo-Zulu cavalier? A pseudo-Celt monk?

Though, I will admit the Rokugan-Samurai was good for its flexibility.

Well, at least we can agree on that.

 

[Razz]

Not exactly, the 1e Samurai is not a two-weapon specialist, but a katana specialist. It also offers bow specialization as well, so much like the archetypal Samurai I know, not "Western." Not everyone is a Musashi. (Look it up.)

Well I said closer than Rokugan-Samurai, I didn't mean compared to THE 1E Samurai.

You cannot be serious. Shou noble warriors as two-weapon specialists? What's next for you, Haoles, a pseudo-Polynesian in chainmail? A pseudo-Zulu cavalier? A pseudo-Celt monk?

Why not? Makes sense? Isn't Shou Lung better martial-artists than Wa and Kozakura? A two-weapon specialist fits such a theme. Besides, don't tell me Samurai in Shou Lung and Tu'Lung should even be ALLOWED in such a culture. They're based off of China, samurai shouldn't even have their place their.

Well....they do but go by a different name...Knight or Noble I believe (I remember Knight was one term...weird calling them Knights in an oriental setting, even 1E OA had their mistakes).

Well, I need a way to invite both forms of Samurai into my campaign and that's the only way I can think of, unless you got a better idea?

 

[Ranger REG]

Why not? Makes sense? Isn't Shou Lung better martial-artists than Wa and Kozakura? A two-weapon specialist fits such a theme.

A theme, not THE theme. Not everyone in a pseudo-China setting is a two-weapon specialist.