Paizo New Roundup With Extra Ultimate Wilderness

Hello and welcome to the latest edition of the PAIZO NEWS ROUNDUP! As always, I am your excitable and long-winded host, ready to give you all the deets on the latest from our favorite company of golems. It seems that Paizo is laser-focused on its newest upcoming release: Ultimate Wilderness! That said, they’re not about to leave Starfinder fans hanging in the solar winds. Let’s get started!

Hello and welcome to the latest edition of the PAIZO NEWS ROUNDUP! As always, I am your excitable and long-winded host, ready to give you all the deets on the latest from our favorite company of golems. It seems that Paizo is laser-focused on its newest upcoming release: Ultimate Wilderness! That said, they’re not about to leave Starfinder fans hanging in the solar winds. Let’s get started!


Let’s start things off with some reassurances for Starfinder GMs worried about the 22 new playable races available in the Alien Archive. Thurston Hillman lays out the Starfinder Society’s plans for incorporating the various races into organized play that will keep things sane.

First and foremost, the conventions around the world will be divided into regions that each have access to a smaller amount of the new races. Each region is scheduled to cycle through the different groups of new races, so GMs have an opportunity to learn the new races at an approachable pace and players still get the opportunity to try them all out (eventually).

For players looking to take advantage of different races immediately, the Starfinder Society is implementing a new player boon. Players who play six unique Starfinder scenarios with any combination of characters can gain access to two of the new races, while playing twelve or more opens up a third. Previously-played scenarios count towards this limit, so you may already be eligible to play your favorite alien!

Of course, no company is perfect, so the Golem is open to feedback on how you the players would like to see these new races rolled out. Feel free to bombard them with ideas, suggestions, and requests! They literally asked for it!

Now, on to Pathfinder, and from there to the upcoming supplement making waves: Ultimate Wilderness! This supplement is geared towards a primally-focused campaign or character. Stephen Radney-McFarland gives us a deeper peek at a new base class that taps into the same primal energy as the druid: the shifter.

The shifter a master of many powerful bestial forms and can combine lesser aspects into a single composite whole. The shifter also has a defensive instinct to keep her from harm, and uses her connection with nature to commune with animals, track, and move effortlessly and silently through the wilds.

Like all base classes, the shifter will come with a bevy of archetypes. Elemental shifters gain boons based on the elemental planes, while fiendflesh shifters make pacts with dark powers for extra strength. If you’re worried about being locked out of this new primal power because you want to take a spin with the new and improved plant races, worry no longer: the updates remove their immunity to polymorph effects, as well of some of their more powerful damage immunities. Ah, the price you pay for ambition. Should still be fun!


Don’t think I’m going to bury the lede on plant races, oh no. Your old tasty favorite, the ghoran, is joined by the vine leshy and the gathlains in Ultimate Wilderness, and Linda Zayas-Palmer has all sorts of tidbits to tell.

You’re probably familiar with ghorans and their delicious flesh (great grapplers they do NOT make), but Ultimate Wilderness provides a new archetype to try. The aromaphile ghoran produces clouds of sweet odors and pollen that can hypnotize or debilitate their foes or help their allies recover from negative effects.

Vine leshys are a new type of leshy debuting in Ultimate Wilderness. Unlike the leshys you may be used to from the Bestiaries, vine leshys only take up a static ward for brief periods of time. This allows them to wander around and search for new exciting vistas for their newest ward.

Vegetable people don’t get all the fun in Ultimate Wilderness. The free-spirited gathlains are a new race of fey that are capricious and fun-loving to a fault. Even other fey races might be shocked by their pranks. I’ll reserve my judgement as a GM on how excited I am about a race that goes out of its way to make mischief, but it should make for exciting and unpredictable campaigns no matter what!

A new supplement for Pathfinder wouldn’t feel at home without a new library of archetypes, and boy does Ultimate Wilderness provide. Over 60 pages are dedicated to archetypes for base classes, hybrid classes, and even the new occult classes.

Well that’s all for this edition of the PAIZO NEWS ROUNDUP! Stay tuned for more on the Golem, and possibly even some third parties!
 

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Ben Reece

Ben Reece

I recall back when Eric Noah started this site because he was excited about the upcoming D&D third edition. Post after post was filled with excitement - from him and others. It was fun to read bout people enjoying the game and excited about new products. Eventually Morrus took it over and has been doing a stellar job. But at some point, real life got busy and I drifted away from gaming for a bit.

Several years later, I get back into RPGs and return to EN World. Now, however, I can barely read the comment threads on any front page posting. The general overall tone of negativity is really disheartening.

For example here, I am looking forward to Ultimate Wilderness and was wondering what other people thought, but instead we're spending the majority of a comment thread not discussing the product, but attacking the site owner and debating whether he is a paid shill until he has to specifically deny it.

Sure, I would hope reviews are fair and thorough, and all of the ones I have read seem to be. Or news articles about serious problems in the industry will be tough reads. But something like this used to be about the excitement of something new on the way - and the article reads like that. Then the comments immediately attack it. I'm sadly finding that EN World might fall into my "Don't read the comments" list which is depressing. Eric's Grandma may be happy everyone is keeping their language clean, but she'd be sad at how antagonistic so much of the discussion has become, especially around front page news.

What is wrong about being excited for something? Did the hipster "Oh, you really like that - guess you've sold out" attitude go mainstream here or something? It's supposed to be a game that people can enjoy without accusations of being paid shills.

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To follow my own advice:

I've been fascinated by the idea of a shapechanging class for years but never really could figure out how to make it work. In fact, I first had an idea about it back reading about Korean mythology where powerful beings would compete by trying to out shapechange each other. I'm curious how this class can fit something like that which is more of a divine/spiritual power rather than just wilderness vibe, or even reflavoring into other concepts. Can't wait to read it!

[MENTION=3547]Matrix Sorcica[/MENTION]: see, not so hard. :)

Well said and cause for reflection. Thanks.
 

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Anthro78

Explorer
The mood in America (at least) has become very Zero-Sum over the last few years. If you like THIS, then you must hate THAT. And if I like THAT, then you must hate ME. I think it started in gaming over the 3rd edition - 4e split, when Edition Warriors became the loudest voice in the playground (and a huge reason I stopped reading ENWorld for years). I'd hoped the success of both Paizo and WotC would have quieted some of the worst of it, but then the 2016 election seemed to be a competition in the same vein and has infected most of the discourse in the last couple years. If you're for HIM, then you must hate HER, and vice versa. It doesn't help when we have such a combative leadership at the moment who is actively trying to divide to conquer. I expect this thread is just another symptom of a deeper problem.
 

Well....okay, so all of that happened.

Anyway! I popped in here because I wanted to read about what was new with Paizo and Pathfinder. I've been re-energized with interest in playing Pathfinder again and was curious if the Ultimate Wilderness was worth checking out, and sounds like it is.

I've already got the Aliens Archive, FYI, and wanted to say it's really damned good, book is full of cool ideas and plot bits to run with. I wasn't 100% sure where to go with Starfinder when I picked it up but the Alien Archive helped me as a GM a great deal.
 

Lord_Blacksteel

Adventurer
Sure, I would hope reviews are fair and thorough, and all of the ones I have read seem to be. Or news articles about serious problems in the industry will be tough reads. But something like this used to be about the excitement of something new on the way - and the article reads like that. Then the comments immediately attack it. I'm sadly finding that EN World might fall into my "Don't read the comments" list which is depressing. Eric's Grandma may be happy everyone is keeping their language clean, but she'd be sad at how antagonistic so much of the discussion has become, especially around front page news.

What is wrong about being excited for something? Did the hipster "Oh, you really like that - guess you've sold out" attitude go mainstream here or something? It's supposed to be a game that people can enjoy without accusations of being paid shills.

I'm with you to a point. I think some of the discord is that the front page articles used to be mainly "news" or "reviews" from an original point of view. Now we have this type of article which is basically a re-telling of the linked blog entries on the Paizo blog. It's not a review, but it's not really news either as the Wilderness book was announced a while back. It's not a straight repost of the blog material either. So it's sort of a summary of a series of blog entries which are already not that long to begin with. It's not a new product announcement or a review but more of a ummary of a "preview" of what's coming in some new products. If you click on the links in the article you'll see what I mean.

It's not necessarily wrong but it's an odd duck. In the old Eric Noah's 3rd Edition News days we came here because there weren't a ton of places to catch up on things and the monthly Dragon 3E discussion articles could be discussed and interpreted and speculated upon here. People would take that material and do all kinds of things with it in the forums. This is still the center of the D&D universe online as far as I'm concerned, especially with WOTC shutting down their own forums. But Pathfinder has it's own forums on Paizo and a whole bunch of that discussion happens there. Presumably the people who really care are following the blog and conversation there. Pathfinder is a big part of the general D&D scene though, so what do they do here? Ignore it? That seems like a bad choice. So you end up with a press-release type article here that refers to the deeper information yet is not presented by Paizo itself but by a fan. It's in kind of a strange place but I think it's just where things are for now.

I believe we have seen press release type articles from other D&D type game publishers here (13th Age, Shadow of a Demon Lord, various OSR) too so even if it was a Paizo press release I don't think it would be out of line. That's one of the reasons we come here, right? Sometimes it just takes a minute to parse out what a particular article is actually doing.
 

Shasarak

Banned
Banned
I am usually not so interested in Wilderness type supplements but it still might be worth it for the new races and class. Guess I will put this one on the watch list.
 

I am usually not so interested in Wilderness type supplements but it still might be worth it for the new races and class. Guess I will put this one on the watch list.
Apparently there's a lot of negative feedback on the paizo forum because a lot of classes are better than the shifter at shifting.
 

Arilyn

Hero
It means what it says. The part on ultimate wilderness reads like an advertisement written by the company in question. The author gushes about the content without having seen it presumably, there's no reflection on balance or rules bloat etc. It reads like Paizo forwarded the text and it got pasted more or less as is.

So I asked because I was genuinely curious.

Are you kidding? How is this any different than posting about a new WOTC book, or any other game book? It's a gaming site! I sense you are not a PF fan, so why are you even reading the roundup?

Just curious? Nope you want to complain about Paizo, even getting in snide remarks about bloat...
 

Are you kidding? How is this any different than posting about a new WOTC book, or any other game book? It's a gaming site! I sense you are not a PF fan, so why are you even reading the roundup?

Just curious? Nope you want to complain about Paizo, even getting in snide remarks about bloat...

I enjoy Paizo worldbuilding and adventures a lot and think their game mechanics design sucks balls, so your keen senses and mind reading skills need some improvement
 


Hellkat9940

Explorer
Ok, I have not heard anything like that. What aspects of Shifting do other classes do better?

Generally, the class is basically features sawed off of existing classes and mashed together.

You take a renamed Hunter's Animal Focus, dubbed Animal Aspect, just one of them, and that's your shape. You get to pick another one every few levels, but for the most part you get to count the number of animal forms you can shift into on one hand.

And you don't shift at the start, it takes a few levels to get proper wildshape (which is limited to your chosen form).

You've got slooooooooooowly scaling claw attacks and Monk's +Wis to AC that stacks with armor (you have the Druid's no metal restriction).

The Shifter's actual shifting is Beast Shape II, and pretty much all the actual shifting comes entirely from that spell effect.

It gets a Large form and Pounce online at level 5, and kinda peaks there.

As a Druid can pick whatever animal they like for their forms, not just the handful that are the specific aspects they chose.

This makes the shapeshifting utility quite limited.

Oh, and Paizo forgot to include fully aquatic critters on the list, so no Shark Shape for you.

And some of the archetypes are pretty lackluster. The Elemental one trades out your always on claws for limited use abilities, so especially at low levels you can be a Shifter that runs out of the capacity to shift, and the Ooze-based one basically makes it so you can't use any gear, mundane or magical, while in your other form.

I think basically everything from the Shifter is taken from some other class (Ranger, Hunter, Monk, Druid), and is either functionally identical or made outright worse, IE Animal Aspect being a worse version of Animal Focus, Shifter's Wild Shape being FAR more limited than a Druid;s animal Wild Shape options, etc.

Basically, a Skinwalker Barbarian or Bloodrager with the right options can do the who full BAB shapeshifter thing more effectively than the Shifter class itself can, and a Druid's Wild Shape utility easily puts the Shifter to shame.
 

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