Pathfinder 1E Paizo no longer publishing Dungeon and Dragon

[jhallum]

I think the one thing I find most shocking about this is the lack on any presence by WotC on this. Josh and James have been all over this thread. I go over to the Wizards forums, and there isn't any posts by any Wizards rep about their part in this. Why in the heck would you have a press release killing one of your favored products, and not have any Press Release talking about what you are doing next! Wizards is getting butchered here, and on WotCs forums. What the hell are they doing?

I can only guess at this point that they were supposed to have something ready to release by this point, but have been delayed beyond belief. That can't bode well for a quality solution, can it?

Wizards reps, where are you?

 

[Henry]

But everyone here needs to calm down and pay attention to this: Griping about what evil WotC has done and boycotting their online e-zine AND their future D&D books is only going to hurt D&D even more! How do you know for a fact that the e-zine won't be as good as Dragon/Dungeon? I am willing to give it a try for some time before I make random assumptions.

For the first part: I can't see how it really could hurt it more than this would. WotC is making some categorically BIG mistakes in my opinion, and one of the biggest is leaving the customer base in the lurch while they are in transition to "premium content." Letting their e-support license with codemonkey lapse, and then letting the magazines lapse, is like telling a starving man that better food than his bread and water is coming, stopping the bread and water, and then waiting two months to prepare a sumptous meal, only to be surprised that he starved to death in the interim.

For the second part: Quality of the content won't matter if it's (1) electronic-only, and (2) takes a year to get here. It's a poor move on the part of the company to kill all support licenses before there's even product to be made. All of this seems predicated on someone reading the results of the surveys from last year about "premium content", and drawing a VERY bad conclusion from it.

 

[takasi]

I never imagined that they would abruptly end their(/Paizo's) long-successful magazine lines in favor of what is, as I see it, a marketing experiment.

How do we know they were successful?

How do we know that they weren't cutting in on WotC's profit?

Perhaps their research indicated that people weren't buying WotC material because they were getting everything they needed from Dungeon and the core books?

Maybe the Adventure Paths were too popular for their own good. They seemed to have spawned an entire year crammed with "Expeditions" from WotC, and now Dungeon is canceled.

 

[Dimwhit]

Personally, if WotC published all their books in a downloadable html format, all links and such (like Sovelior/Sage's SRD, but all the Complete Books and whatnot), I'd never buy another print gaming book again...

 

[Land Outcast]

We'll drink a cup of kindness yet for auld lang syne... *emotional*

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

I really don't have room for an ugly hard drive on my bookshelves next to my copy of Dragon #1.

I don't have room for all the issues of Dragon I already own.... I stopped subscribing to Dragon largely because I couldn't use the content in my games, because I couldn't possibly effectively use those magazines.

I feel bad about this, but I haven't been a subscriber for a long time. I'm likely to give the online thing a try.

 

[Henry]

I think the one thing I find most shocking about this is the lack on any presence by WotC on this. Josh and James have been all over this thread. I go over to the Wizards forums, and there isn't any posts by any Wizards rep about their part in this. Why in the heck would you have a press release killing one of your favored products, and not have any Press Release talking about what you are doing next! Wizards is getting butchered here, and on WotCs forums. What the hell are they doing?

I can only guess at this point that they were supposed to have something ready to release by this point, but have been delayed beyond belief. That can't bode well for a quality solution, can it?

Wizards reps, where are you?

In truth, it doesn't surprise me, either: Most of the company representatives who regularly visit fan forums were either fired or left WotC for Paizo and other 3rd parties, leaving only Mike Mearls and a one-handed count of others who actually speak to their customers regularly.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

On a quasi-related note, does anyone know what the letter designations for the Gamemastery modules are all about? They don't seem to indicate a series of modules.

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

It's only available online.

 

[Jefe Bergenstein]

Given the number of people who have hundreds, if not thousands, of posts here and elsewhere, I'm going to disagree. Can't be that bad, or all us fatbeards wouldn't be slobbering over these message boards day in and day out.

Theres a huge difference between scanning a few posts, and trying to acitvely read a book. Reading PDFs and even messageboards for a while give me a headache.