Pathfinder 1E Paizo no longer publishing Dungeon and Dragon

[buzz]

FWIW, this was probably inevitable. I imagine that all print periodicals are feeling the Web creeping up on them. I'm not sure I understand exactly how this move is more profitable for WotC, but I can only assume it is, or they would not have done it.

Despite counting myself as one of the gut-punched, I am interested to see what WotC is planning to offer. As someone said upthread, their site is a great D&D resource. I can only hope that carries over to their subscription offering, and that it lives up to the high standard Paizo has set.

The main deal-breaker for me would be price. Any amount that even hints at what Dragon's subscription cost, and I'm not sure I could justify it. Whatever WotC may be spending on content and infrastructure has got to be a pittance compared to meatspace distribution and printing. They damn well better pass that savings on.

 

[Nightfall]

Tak,

Cause Paths of Adventures seems just a tad silly I think.

Buzz,

You're assuming brain cells at management level when in fact there's often little to none.

 

[Chronepsis]

Hmm, I just realized. This is the end of Ecology articles.

I hope Paizo considers making Ecology-style books grouped by subject matter.

Well, if you haven't already seen it, the Monster Ecologies special issue of Dragon-- featuring eighteen of the best ecologies from the last few years--has started hitting shelves. (And yes, our machine to read your future thoughts is working very well.) Anyone who snags that should see that there's an index of every ecology ever printed that it goes right up to issue #359. According to that, we've got something pretty special planned for the last one.

As for more ecologies, while we can't say what WotC will be doing with the several hundred column strong series, Pathfinder we'll definitely be featuring ecological investigations of some of the key creatures to each Adventure Path. We've already got some articles primed for this, as well as other topics that have provenly warranted in depth discussions--like lengthy looks a deities and powerful villains. As you might be able to see if you look close at the first volume of Pathfinder, Dr. Wayne Reynolds and some of the most awesome artists in fantasy have crafted distinctive new looks for some of the best known monsters in the SRD (to say nothing of new beasties of all stripes). You'll be able to learn more about creatures like our voracious goblins in Pathfinder Volume 1 and on the Pathfinder page in the next few days.

 

[Nightfall]

Wesley,

So can I get an Ecology on Ratmen from S&SS?

 

[James Jacobs]

...the Far Corners of the World series...

Awww, thanks! Those articles were the most fun I had writing anything for WotC's website (with the exception of the enormous adventure, "The Thunder Below"). I always wished that they could have commissioned some pictures for some of the monsters from the Far Corners, though. The necroclasm would have looked particularly neat...

 

[Shadeydm]

Bravo to WotC on this move,
-z

May fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits!

 

[smootrk]

I doubt that any 4ed endeavor will get my money... much like the fact that I do not own 2ed stuff. I imagine that others feel the same way, and we will be looking at a period of time where the D&D line languishes (and is probably sold off). Then a few years from now, a new incarnation will come about (a welcome thing).

I never missed anything 2ed, and I have so much 3ed stuff that I cannot possibly use it all even if the 4ed phase of the game lasts 10 or more years. Pi$$ Off, Hasbro!

 

[Nightfall]

James,

Far Corners was alright but no comparison to your Fiendish mind in Demonicon.


Shadey,

Here, here. But let's send the fleas to WotC, not on fellow gamers. Education should be our means of conversion, not curses.

Smootk,

Yeah I feel you on that, but with more venom and undeadness.

 

[Lhorgrim]

It's taken me over two hours to read through this thread up to the last post. I couldn't stop reading because I feel such a connection to most of the posters.

I started reading Dragon in the 80's, and got into Dungeon in the final days of 2E. When I read the news about the end of these two magazines I was really devastated. I want to lash out at WotC, but I find I don't care enough about them to let them continue to bring me down. :\

As it happens, I ordered Castles and Crusades just yesterday, because I just wanted to get back to a different kind of gaming. I haven't bought any WotC products for months, so I guess I'll just start focusing on other game systems like C&C.

I love what Paizo did with Dungeon and Dragon, and I'll try to continue to convert some of their products for the new systems I'm trying.

Others have written better explanations of how I feel right now than I ever could, so I'll just bow out for now.

As my feelings evolve I may post more, but now I just want to grieve for a big part of my childhood that has not been lost, but has been taken.

 

[CanadienneBacon]

I don't know whether WotC's decision bodes well for their company or what it might bode for the industry, but as a mere personal opinion I think it sucks that Dungeon will be canceled. Thank you, Erik Mona, for the wonderful and inspiring job you did with that mag while you were at its helm. I subscribed and enjoyed every. single. issue.

Like a few others in this thread, I knew that Savage Tide would ending soon and thus I was going to re-up on the premise that Dungeon would be starting a new AP. I have SC and AoW but skipped ST. I'm sorry now I didn't re-up for that endeavor, considering it'll be the last of things. No way can I afford Pathfinder, sorry. I won't be subscribing. Good luck on it, though.

Goodman Games' Dungeon Crawl Classics, you're going to be getting my money from now on. I hear several of your retakes are DM gold.