Pathfinder 1E Paizo no longer publishing Dungeon and Dragon

[diaglo]

That's nothing;

just so you know danzig138 has offered to compensate WotC for all of the lost business this has caused.

i told him i buy on avg $200 per month.

anybody else want to add to danzig's bill?

 

[mhensley]

I don't know about that. I have my Dungeon #1 still sitting proudly on the shelf.

The pictures of wife #1 are in a box in the attic.

All a matter of perspective.

LOL!

 

[Rokes]

I'm *only* about $80 a month. Of course I just spent over $2000 remodeling my study in the basement (faux stone walls, wood floors, etc, feels like my dungeon I always wanted!), which included a heavy duty shelving system for all my WotC books...

 

[Ry]

Well, I'm shocked by this. I think it's dumb.

But I'm also psyched for Pathfinder. I thought for a long time that the good ideas from Dragon and the good ideas from Dungeon would be great as a -single- magazine with a badass adventure and lots of supporting content. I'll miss Dungeoncraft though.

 

[Ry]

I'm not the sort of person who boycotts things. But man, I am seriously thinking about it with this. I'm also thinking that if 4E isn't OGL, that's great. Necromancer, Paizo, Goodman can go one way, and Wizards can go another.

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

Stage Six For me anyway. "Refuse to buy WotC's online content in protest of these cancellations."

Because the best way to protest the cancellation of a venue for freelance designers to get work is to refuse to patronize another way for a lot of those very same freelancers to get work.

 

[Deuce Traveler]

Deuce,

Don't bet on it. They still charge full price for a PDF of Draconomicon and I actually LIKED that book.

Ah well, what will come will come.

 

[Raptor]

I have not bought neither a Dragon nor a Dungeon magazine in a long long time so it does not really bother me either way. It was always good knowing there was something out there should I need it.

 

[Failed Saving Throw]

I'm saddened by this, but not surprised. For those of you who don't work within the newspaper or magazine industry, it's difficult to explain just how dramatically the Internet has changed everything. I'm a newspaper reporter, and the Internet has caused all newspapers in the U.S. to die a slow death in terms of circulation and ad sales. I'm sure it's the same with Dragon and Dungeon.

And let's face it: Both are very expensive magazines aimed at a relatively small niche. I'd love to see how both magazines fare in single-copy sales, as I'd assume that most readers who want to read/use Dragon and Dungeon subscribe to one, if not both.

Personally I'm very bummed about Dungeon going away, but not Dragon. The quality of Dragon is very hit-or-miss, and I feel it generally does not have enough content to justify the pricetag.

 

[Exquisite Dead Guy]

For what it's worth, which admitedly ain't much, here is my email to customer service and their response:

Customer (Terry Gwazdosky) 04/19/2007 01:55 PM
I am very disapointed in your decision to pull the license for Dragon and Dungeon magazines from Paizo. I've been a subscriber to them both for many years (Dragon going back to the 80's). I have no interest whatsoever in the online content that will be replacing them for the same reason I have no interest in .pdf products - I can't hold them in my hands unless I print them out, which is just too damn expensive and results in a low-quality copy.

I honestly don't expect anything other than a bolier plate reply from you on this - I'm just writing to voice my displeasure and to let you know that I will not be purchasing your online content.


Subject: Discontinuation of Dragon and Dungeon Magazines
Discussion Thread
Response (Support Agent) 04/19/2007 03:37 PM
Terry,

I am glad you decided to write in about this, I am keeping track of the response from players and I will bring this up at our next meeting.

Take Care!

Chuck
Customer Service Representative
Wizards of the Coast
1-800-324-6496 (US and Canada)
425-204-8069 (From all other countries)
Monday-Friday 9am-6pm PST / 12pm-9pm EST

Please contact them and let them know how you feel. Let them know you are upset and why. We've got to let them know that their customers are unhappy.