The only existing Oath I don't really care for is Redemption, with some wonky mechanics one might expect from trying to put a pacifist bent on a combat class.
Which class have you been comparing to? I think Rogues, Fighters and Monks have it worse. Paladins dont have an archetype that is widely accepted as 'weak'. Plus all of them (except Vengeance) get a unique aura that is quite powerful and benefits the party members.Well, perhaps it was by design. The paladin class is arguably a powerful one even without archetype features added. It is just that in reviewing the archetypes, no one at our table has ever found any of them to be compelling for their character--it is almost a "why bother, these all suck" attitude. Compared to archetypes from other classes, they seem severely uninspired.
Well since lowkey's avatar is based on an evil cat woman who hates paladins ... err ... She-Ra, lowkey would probably side with the Skesis.
Right. Better to destroy the entire world than accept responsibility for your own actions. Although I do understand being jealous of that hair.Catra is not evil.
She's just misunderstood. I mean, how would you feel if your bestie got a hyphen and you didn't?
Hear that, She-Ra? I'm coming for you, and for your precious hyphen!
A lot of commenters here on enworld don't realize what's really going on. They view threads as a bunch of unconnected topics and things.P.S. Have we gone off topic?
Man, I don't think you could cut through that Gordian knot with a katana.A lot of commenters here on enworld don't realize what's really going on. They view threads as a bunch of unconnected topics and things.
They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice of coincidence that lays on top of everything. Give you an example, show you what I mean: suppose you're thinking about a plate of shrimp. Suddenly someone'll write a comment, like, "plate," or "shrimp," or maybe start a thread called "plate of shrimp" out of the blue, no explanation.
No point in looking for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.
That's a nice write-up. Can I suggest you improve it by mentioning levels at every stage? And with respect to Lay on Hands Improvement, instead of 'it' rather say 'the target'. You might also explicitly note whether or not Defender of the Faith works if you've been reduced to 0 HP.For comparison, here is the Oath of Protection we use.
Thanks! I'll update it to include levels, but the features are in order at the levels when all paladin archetypes get their features. Good point about the cap stone, you have to start your turn with at least 1 hit point.That's a nice write-up. Can I suggest you improve it by mentioning levels at every stage? And with respect to Lay on Hands Improvement, instead of 'it' rather say 'the target'. You might also explicitly note whether or not Defender of the Faith works if you've been reduced to 0 HP.
But Fallen Aasimar Oath of Conquest is so much fun! Not emo at all!I do not agree with the premise of this thread.
Why blame the archetype, when you can end the class?
Do not suffer the slings and arrow of outrageous subclasses, when you can take arms against the sea of Paladin perfidy.