Paladin, Core or Prc, the final word!

Ok, Paladen as a core class or prc?

  • Leave the paladin as it is, it deserves to be a core class!

    Votes: 85 42.9%
  • The paladin should be left as a core class, but should have less restrictions.

    Votes: 35 17.7%
  • Yea, the paladin should be a prc, but they should have a type of holy warrior replacement.

    Votes: 17 8.6%
  • Yes, the paladin should be a prc, and it should not be replaced by another core class.

    Votes: 52 26.3%
  • Take the paladin out all together!

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • I don't know and have no opinion!

    Votes: 5 2.5%

I kind of agree more with WattsHumphrey, I think that evil will take on anyone, and corrupt them as they go. Good will make you prove your purity before you can join. It makes much more sense with me.
 

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I think making Paladins a PrC only would be an interesting House Rule but I'd rather it was a Core Class in the PHB.

Again, if the Dm I was playing under demanded it was a PrC only, that'd be cool, very Deed of Paksenarion, but still, I want that as a variant rule, not the core rule.
 

The funny thing is that there is another string on the same issue that is fairly current as well, and the opinions there are the exact opposite of this poll. Most everyone there says that at the very least it should be a prestiege class.

As far as the Blackguard being a corrupted good guy. That is not their archtype. They make considerations and give you extra bonuses for being such, but that is not their only hook.
 

Ashe said:
The funny thing is that there is another string on the same issue that is fairly current as well, and the opinions there are the exact opposite of this poll

Threaeds of discussion and polls select different sorts of people for their sample. Polls catch a more casual reader. Full discussion threads only catch those people who are interested enough or feel strongly enough to write a full post on the topic.
 



I don't think that "flavor" should come from the class, but from the player and the DM. "Flavored" classes box people into the flavor the originator of it wanted to use. Of course, if a player tries to change it to fit his idea of what "flavor" it should have, it can bring up all sorts of balance issues.

Personally, I'd rather see generic classes that allow me to set up the "flavor" like *I* want it, not how someone else thought it should be.
 

Uh, none of the above.

Should not be a PrC, but the "paladin" should be a specific implementation of a more general "holy warrior" class.

Like in Book of the Righteous.
 

I like Psion's idea as well... I could live with that. (Well, not HIS idea, but from the Book of the Righteous... which I might need to get now :))
 
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Aaron2 said:
We need more interesting Core Classes, not less. Say "NO" to bland genero classes!


Aaron

On the contrary. We need Core Classes that are more building block-like, allowing greater customization and easier multiclassing. Examples would be the Fighter, Rogue, and all the d20 Modern Base classes. What we need less of is pigeonholed Core classes that can only be used for one or two archetypes, like the Ranger and the Paladin. Say "YES" to generic Core classes, and "YES" to specialized Prestige classes!

To be on-topic, I'm surprised no one has mentioned GR's Book of the Righteous yet, so I will. Easily customizable paladin-like Core class.
 

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