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Pan's Labyrinth

So it's not a "I'm going to the movies and I want to shut my brain off and be entertained for 2+ hours movie"?

I'll go see it, but not sure the wife would want to. If I could convince her it would be like Borat, then maybe.... :D
 

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I'm going to see it tomorrow. It is finally showing at two theaters in all of Alabama and I will go to the Summit - I know where that is - tomorrow afternoon. But i understand the flick give fascism a bad name. Man, between Pan and 300, where is the love for inhuman tyrants?
 
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I saw this movie this afternoon and I have to say it is one of the most beautiful and heart breaking movies I have seen in years. As far as the older fairy tales go, the kind collected by the Grimm Brothers, it is almost perfect.

By being whom I am, I note the girl was a Catholic (highlight for spoilers)
who died with sins she did not confess. It seems unlikely she went to a Fairy Tale Kingdom.

In the end, humanity is nothing less and nothing more than just another herd animal, that herded along by the steady and hard hands. The Spanish lost to Franco’s Fascists because they deserved to loose. They, and the girl, were disobeying a legal and parental authority figure. There are consequences for that.
 
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I'll add my voice to the chorus of praise for this movie. I didn't know what to expect when I went into this movie, and came out of it pleasantly surprised. It's definitely one I'll be picking up on DVD.
 


The Grumpy Celt said:
The Spanish lost to Franco’s Fascists because they deserved to loose. They, and the girl, were disobeying a legal and parental authority figure. There are consequences for that.
A frustration of this board's rules is that I can't discuss politics even to dis fascists :). WHen thinking about who deserved what, though, it's probably worth thinking about what the children deserved; they, after all, were the ones who got to grow up under fascist rule. It's also worth thinking about the role of other countries in the war, very complex roles that had a tremendous amount to do with the fascist victory.

I do think that the doctor's last words to the captain were practically Del Toro's own words and the central point to the movie. I wish I could find the quote!

Daniel
 

Pielorinho said:
I do think that the doctor's last words to the captain were practically Del Toro's own words and the central point to the movie. I wish I could find the quote!

Daniel

Capitán Vidal: You could have obeyed me!

Doctor: [his last words] But captain, obey for obey's sake... without questioning... That's something only people like you do.
 

Finally saw the movie tonight....it was dark....and I'm somewhat squeamish, so some of the violence had me squirming in my seat...Vidal's mouth....ugh...

I wasn't quite sure about whether or not the girl lived on in the faerie world or not. I'd like to think that she did. As to dying with sins unconfessed, who's to say she died? If the faerie reality was real, then at heart, she's not even human, so where would she go?

I too, liked the doctor's line. That took some real courage.

As to whether or not it was real, didn't Mercedes see the chalk door she'd drawn on the wall, when she came to her room to look for her? I suppose it could have been just her, but I'm not sure. And the mandrake seemed to have an effect on the mother.

In the theatre I was in, a man and his wife got up right after Mercedes was captured, and started yelling to the audience that we should all leave the room, because the movie was disgusting, with women and children getting hurt, and wasn't it enough with all of them being hurt in the U.S. and such. His wife tried to pull him out, and he turned around, and then said something about everyone in the theatre being twisted if we stay and watch...then he left. Kind of an...interesting encounter.

Overall, the movie was excellent. Although there were warnings, I still think it was more violent than I'd anticipated. But the the way they treated the faerie was pretty cool. I found it much more interesting than, say, Tinkerbell.

Banshee
 

Yep. One of the primary themes of the movie was the importance of imagination and thinking for one's self, which includes disobedience to absolute authority. You can't kill ideas (like the idea of freedom), and that is why, though tragic, the film is ultimately hopeful.

Grumpy, I'm surprised that you took only the dire consequences away as the moral of the story.
 

Sir Brennen said:
Grumpy, I'm surprised that you took only the dire consequences away as the moral of the story.

I gotta be me. Life is pain and not a fairy tale. A single tyrant gets more accomplished in life than a dozen dreamers.

Banshee16 said:
In the theatre I was in, a man and his wife got up right after Mercedes was captured...

Movie's produce strange reactions in people. I saw a family make a scene and leave during Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, but it was not as loud or as bad as the one you describe here.
 

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