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PF2E Pathfinder 2: beginner box unboxing


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kenada

Adventurer
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It’s a little pricy, but it looks like the Beginner’s Box comes with a ton of nice stuff. I wish the standard character sheets were as nice as the ones in this video. 😅
 


ShinHakkaider

Adventurer
Flip Mat ($15) Dice ($10) The pawns separately are close to $20. compared to an AP pawn set that contains over 100 pawns just like the description for this set

A full color 64 page adventure module is $23 so its conceivable that an 80 page book ALONE can be priced at $34. But let be conservative and price it a $30. The 96 page book could also be priced higher but again lets be conservative and price THAT TOO at $30.

If we added all of those things together $105 and CUT THAT PRICE IN HALF ($52) it's STILL a bargain for what you get in the box. So at $40 it's a steal. Miniature Market has it on preorder for $30.

So when people say that something like this is a bit pricey? What they really mean is that they don't want to pay $40 for this product which is fair. But there's a low key tone which implies that it's too much money for what you get. And that is definitely NOT the case. Not here.
 

kenada

Adventurer
Supporter
Nope, looking at it compared to the competition. It’s a good value, but the competition has a lower price point. I like PF2 and want it to be successful, but I worry that the price point and the market clout of the competition will cause people to overlook the Beginner Box.

Also, fwiw, Cool Stuff Inc has it for pre-order at $27.99.
 

ShinHakkaider

Adventurer
The competition has a lower price point BEACAUSE it's of lower value. I bought that D&D starter set on a lark. It felt cheap and flimsy and in terms of content, it's anemic compared to the Pathfinder Beginners Box. But if the price is all that matters that's fair. I wound up giving it away to someone who wanted to teach their nephews the game.

I go on value and quality and most times (not this one clearly) I'd rather not spend money on a product at all if it's cheaper AND feels cheap.
 

kenada

Adventurer
Supporter
I’m not looking at it from the perspective of an informed consumer but an uninformed one. I want people looking for gifts to skip over D&D and pick up PF2. 😁

Anyway, I preordered. There’s some nice stuff in there like the pawns. It’s also potentially useful as a small adventure to run for people looking at PF2 (assuming the adventure is not brutally hard).
 


dave2008

Legend
Flip Mat ($15) Dice ($10) The pawns separately are close to $20. compared to an AP pawn set that contains over 100 pawns just like the description for this set

A full color 64 page adventure module is $23 so its conceivable that an 80 page book ALONE can be priced at $34. But let be conservative and price it a $30. The 96 page book could also be priced higher but again lets be conservative and price THAT TOO at $30.

If we added all of those things together $105 and CUT THAT PRICE IN HALF ($52) it's STILL a bargain for what you get in the box. So at $40 it's a steal. Miniature Market has it on preorder for $30.

So when people say that something like this is a bit pricey? What they really mean is that they don't want to pay $40 for this product which is fair. But there's a low key tone which implies that it's too much money for what you get. And that is definitely NOT the case. Not here.
Makes you wonder if everything else is overpriced! ;)
 


Philip Benz

A Dragontooth Grognard
How can anyone call a game box with all that stuff in it overpriced at $40? This isn't 1974 anymore, folks!

I'm surprised, though, that from a marketing standpoint, the beginner box wasn't released far sooner in the PF2 stream. But then again, what do any of us know about marketing?

I just hope that the release of this product and the upcoming reprinting of the CRB also bring us some long-awaited errata for several ill-defined rules.
 


dave2008

Legend
How can anyone call a game box with all that stuff in it overpriced at $40? This isn't 1974 anymore, folks!
Kenada didn't say it was over priced (which assumes value), they said it was "pricey." Kenada then clarified that the cost is higher than what they would want to see from a marketing standpoint (quick buy), not a value standpoint. So it can be a great value and still be pricey for the segment it is going after.

If the casual buyer will only pay $25, then being a great value at $40 doesn't help a lot. That is what @kenada was talking about I believe.

PS - I have no idea if that is accurate or not, just saying that was my understanding of the argument.
 

kenada

Adventurer
Supporter
PS - I have no idea if that is accurate or not, just saying that was my understanding of the argument.
Pretty much. I did a cursory check on e.g., Target and Amazon before posting, and the D&D boxed sets were going for $12~$16. The cheapest I saw the Beginner Box was $27.99 at Cool Stuff Inc, which is still the price of both of the other sets together.

From a marketing perspective, Paizo may have conceded on price/name-recognition and is going for having a ton of stuff in the box compared to the competition. Both of the included books are comparatively substantial, and it includes a flip mat and pawns.

I’ve never used Paizo’s pawns before. If they’re nice and comprehensive enough, I might actually pick some up from Paizo. I had a subscription to the early Pathfinder Battles line, so I have tons of minis, but there are still gaps in my collection. 😅
 



ronaldsf

Explorer
Maybe we're looking at these things through old guy glasses? $40 seems reasonable as a gift for a kid IF it has quality components like this clearly does. Having the pawns and the flip mat make this just look more like a complete game than the D&D box sets.
 

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