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Imaro said:
How about a dual-stated book or maybe two versions, where the 3.5 version is a limited run? I'm only asking because I am seriously considering sticking with 3.5.

Can't see the real benefit to Paizo of making this dual statted. Almost all the former dual stattted books wound up dying lines.

Not saying that the (nonesitant) 4e market will be larger than the 3.5 one but...

Might be one of those times when a 3.5 download might draw some people?
 

It really doesn't matter. If it's 3.5E, and I'm playing 4e, I'm pretty sure someone will get around to doing a conversion. Might even be some of the folks at Paizo. And the opposite (4e book, converting down to 3.5) is also a possibility.

In any case, I'll pick it up at my store, if it looks decent. I've been having some trouble with my Pathfinder's shipping to my place (just got #1 last week, and still no sign of #2), so I don't think I'll spend money on the order.

(P.S. - I think the problem is just with my local postal service. I don't want to suggest in any way that it's Paizo's fault. in fact, when I wrote in about the mix-up, they were kind enough to send me a second issue, free of charge. No, it's just whoever delivers my mail being foolish).
 

Unless there are some absolute, completely irreedemable in Paizo's eyes deal-breakers in 4e's design, then this should be a 4e-statted product. Even if it means delaying it a few months.

The reallity is that unless 4e really, really sucks, it's going to be the game most us play.
 

drothgery said:
The reallity is that unless 4e really, really sucks, it's going to be the game most us play.

People keep saying that. It may be HIGHLY probable, but that's not "reality".

It is possible that many will stick to 3.5 at least for some time, mainly because there wasn't an OGL for previous editions of the game. I for one have TONS of 3.X books in my RPG library. IF 4E doesn't allow me to recycle these products with a minimum of efforts, then there is a very strong chance I'm going to stick to 3.5 for a LONG time.

I cannot imagine that I'm the only one in this situation.
 

It is possible that many will stick to 3.5 at least for some time, mainly because there wasn't an OGL for previous editions of the game. I for one have TONS of 3.X books in my RPG library. IF 4E doesn't allow me to recycle these products with a minimum of efforts, then there is a very strong chance I'm going to stick to 3.5 for a LONG time.


im with you here. happy with the stuff i have . sure i had tons of 2e stuff but nothing like i have now and i just dont have the drive or the funds really to buy all that again. have enuff now i can game of the next 10 years easy. 4e not needed for me anyhow
 

Odhanan said:
People keep saying that. It may be HIGHLY probable, but that's not "reality".

It is possible that many will stick to 3.5 at least for some time, mainly because there wasn't an OGL for previous editions of the game. I for one have TONS of 3.X books in my RPG library. IF 4E doesn't allow me to recycle these products with a minimum of efforts, then there is a very strong chance I'm going to stick to 3.5 for a LONG time.

I cannot imagine that I'm the only one in this situation.


You most certainly are not.
 


drothgery said:
The reallity is that unless 4e really, really sucks, it's going to be the game most us play.
Very possible, but when it comes out, 4E is brand-new. So, whether going with 4E or 3E is dangerous:

With 3E: Many groups can and will use it at once in conjunction with their other GameMastery/Pathfinder products, because most campaigns won't have wrapped up at that point. Therefore, Paizo gets the "now-playing" people... but loses potential new players and long-term use, which will be bad, because this means giving up 4E sales of the book, hoping that the players use the 3E in 4E, or doing a revision of it - neither is a really nice alternative.

With 4E: People may start their 4E campaigns with it, granting Paizo "Sunless Citadel"-status among many groups. Has a long-term viability, if they want to keep Pathfinder their flagship-line (which they probably will), and is a nice tie-in to 4E, gaining extra points (image-wise). But in return, they give up 3E-stayers and (at least for a while) people who will convert later. And since they don't know when they'll get the 4E rules into their fingers, they may have a sub-par rules part. So that's not a really great deal either.

Therefore, I really hope, they go systemless. Make it OGL, mention fighters, rogues, wizards and their roles - but no stats. And put out a "Player's Guide to the World of Pathfinder" for that. In 3E first (because that gets the former crowd), then releasing a 4E version of it to get the latter crowd.

Cheers, LT.
 

Personally, I think the folks at Paizo would know the rules fairly well before they released anything. They playtest like there's no tomorrow, from my understanding. They release great stuff, and I think an early 4e product from them would be great, and would lack many of the problems many early 4e third party stuff faced when 3e came out.

(That being said, it would be subject to any bugs in the system itself - I'm sure 4e will have a few problems that will need to be errata'ed out... but that's not something Paizo could ever avoid).
 

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