Pathfinder OGL/3.5 RPG system from Paizo

[mhensley]

So, none of the folks in your group subscribed to, or bought issues of, Dragon or Dungeon magazines in the last several years? If so, it was very clear that Paizo was publishing them.

Some of the "big names" in the community - Lisa Stevens & Erik Mona, for example - are among corporations senior leadership.

Would you be surprised to know that the majority of D&D players didn't read Dragon or Dungeon magazines? Plus, Paizo was the publisher of magazines more associated with D&D and WotC. Some of my players might have subscriptions to Cat Fancy, but I doubt they know (or care to know) the name of its publishing company.

 

[dm4hire]

I agree that Pathfinder should get its own area. I don't see it as favoritism since most other OGL are either niche markets (Thieves World, Conan, etc), modern/sci-fi themed, or a mix with no real dedication. Pathfinder's concept maintains the general feel of D&D and has the most potential for dramatic affect upon our gaming industry while staying close to D&D in the general sense. While Paizo will be maintaining their own boards and page for it, I think with all the continuing discussion which will be surfacing from it that to keep it from flooding every corner we might as well create one. This is mainly because every time something new is revealed it will immediately be discussed in the 4e forum or general as to how this should have or should not have been done in relation to D&D or applied to your specific home campaign. We now have less than 3 months at which the 4e forum will start to dry up as it moves into the general forum due to everyone talking about it and it becomes the main D&D. That is unless we split the editions into separate forums which wouldn't be a bad idea either given the number of people talking about staying with 3.x.

 

[Darrin Drader]

While Paizo will be maintaining their own boards and page for it, I think with all the continuing discussion which will be surfacing from it that to keep it from flooding every corner we might as well create one. This is mainly because every time something new is revealed it will immediately be discussed in the 4e forum or general as to how this should have or should not have been done in relation to D&D or applied to your specific home campaign. We now have less than 3 months at which the 4e forum will start to dry up as it moves into the general forum due to everyone talking about it and it becomes the main D&D. That is unless we split the editions into separate forums which wouldn't be a bad idea either given the number of people talking about staying with 3.x.

This is true unless 4th edition gets a lot fewer adopters than is currently expected. Not saying it will happen, not saying I want it to happen, but it is a possibility. Remember all those people who felt burned by 3.5? There seems to be a lot more people feeling burned by 4th edition this time around.

 

[Donovan Morningfire]

Skimmed through Pathfinder Alpha...

And to be honest really wasn't impressed. I'll probably end up suggesting these to a friend of mine the next time he runs a D&D campaign as he's not convinced on making the move to 4e.

But otherwise... maybe it's just my having played almost nothing but SW Saga for quite a few months now, but Paizo's venture feels less like the much touted "3.75e" and more like "3.51e." I know that I haven't seen the whole thing so far, and that this is indeed the "Alpha" stage, but it just feels like more of the same.

 

[BadMojo]

Pro and con, let's scoot this sidetrack over to the Meta forum, please. There's a thread or two there for it. I'd rather keep this focused on Pathfinder and Paizo.

Thanks.

No problem. I understand.

Anyway, I'm curious to see how much change we really see from Alpha to Beta to final product. I *would* like to see more radical changes, but it's also important to keep backward compatibility as an option. There's going to be a fine line to tread as far as fixing "problems" with 3.5 and making change that are too drastic to work with older products.

I have many, many 3.X adventures I'd like to run/play and too much divergence from the 3.5 rules will make that really tough for me to do that. I'm really tempted to try to run Red Hand of Doom with my group to see how the Pathfinder rules work in play. If the group goes for it, I think I'll give it a try.

 

[dragonlordofpoondari]

I'm very pleased and intended to show my support for Paizo and their decision with my wallet. What WotC was to me from 2000-2007, Paizo will be from 2008 on. That is, they'll be receiving the bulk of my roleplaying budget and will serve as the springboard for most of my future purchases.

Hmm ... this describes my sentiments perfectly.

Rock on, Paizo, for you rock mightily.

-Paizo/NG fanboy for life

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

Rock on, Paizo, for you rock mightily.

thats going into my ever expanding sig.

 

[risner]

Hmm ... this describes my sentiments perfectly.

Rock on, Paizo, for you rock mightily.

/agree

I've played 4E at DDXP, and hated it.

I will be sticking with Paizo and 3.75.

I just signed up for two of Paizo's "book" subscriptions.

 

[Arkhandus]

This is true unless 4th edition gets a lot fewer adopters than is currently expected. Not saying it will happen, not saying I want it to happen, but it is a possibility. Remember all those people who felt burned by 3.5? There seems to be a lot more people feeling burned by 4th edition this time around.

I still feel burned by 3.5. *sniff* Stupid 3.5. I'll never believe it's an improvement, it's just a lot of pointless rule changes mixed in with a few actual, rare, minor fixes.
3.0 is the one true game of D&D.

Paizo rocks though, so I'll probably buy some Pathfinder stuff later, seeing as I won't be giving Wizards of the Coast any more of my money for the next 6-10 years until the new edition, if 5e bothers returning to its roots instead of growing off of 4e like some kind of fungus.

 

[The Crippler]

This is awesome news. Way to go Paizo! I've been with you ever since your first issues of Dragon and Dungeon and I feel almost proud of how you've grown up. This is a ballsy move, but I think you're going to make it work. I know I'll be there, buying the products and cheering every step of the way!