[PBP] Calling all Ungrateful Dead

[kinem]

An undead-PC campaign. Looking for 4 players; ECL 16; mature posters only; posting daily preferred.

Any alignment, but if not currently evil you must have been in the past. All PCs must have an undead template. Broken mechanics like Create Spawn have been changed.

See this for all relevant information, and post in Recruiting to let me know if your interested.

BTW, I've created the new resources over the years and wanted to use 'em.

Edit: There are currently (11/7/05) 1-2 openings!

 

[Erudite]

Hi Kinem,

I'd be interested in playing!

[snip, edited, things will change to protect the guilty]

Let me know what you think!
Cheers,
Erudite

 

[Nephtys]

Sign me up.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

I looked, I’m interested but when I went to post in the recruitment thread the forum crashed. (Looks like EZboard hasn’t improved any in the year since the last time I posted.)

 

[kinem]

Welcome

BrotherSS, I always highlight & copy the text I write before I hit 'post', just in case. Try again, I don't have the problem often.

A few people posted on my board; looks like we'll be full (4 PCs).

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

BrotherSS, I always highlight & copy the text I write before I hit 'post', just in case. Try again, I don't have the problem often.

I hadn't saved it but it was reletive minor... My computer just flakes out on EZboard code, no idea why, or it use to. This wasn't what I normaly got and my modem didn't die once. (As I said its been years since I spent any time on an EZboard forum.)

Anyhow, after that I worked on the concept but reread something and wasn't sure if it worked so I put it aside for a few.

I'll finish it and post it either tonight or tomorrow on your forum.

 

[Nephtys]

I can't log in to the other board (password problems) so I'll ask it here. Do you allow any undead in the core rules or just the corporeal ones?
Also, about converting creatures to an Undead template:

If the base undead was not created from a human (most are), then eliminate any extra properties from the template that only reflect on what the base undead was created from.

Does this mean that we do not get the (ex) (su) and (sa) abilities of the base creature? Or do we?
Can any creature be converted to Undead and used as a PC?
Also, when calculating the LA of the new template do we round down, up, or to the nearest number?

 

[kinem]

I can't log in to the other board (password problems) so I'll ask it here. Do you allow any undead in the core rules or just the corporeal ones?

What kind of password trouble are you having?

Only corporeal undead are allowed.

Does this mean that we do not get the (ex) (su) and (sa) abilities of the base creature? Or do we?
Can any creature be converted to Undead and used as a PC?
Also, when calculating the LA of the new template do we round down, up, or to the nearest number?

When converting non-template undead to a template, you still get the abilities you had in life as the base creature, but not any additional abilities that the undead monster entry has which are due to it being made from some other creature. Ex. If there was a "frost bird" undead monster which can fly, that is due to it being based on a bird. You can make "frost" into a template and apply it to a human, but the new template won't grant flight. You can make an updated "frost bird" which will fly, by applying your template to a bird.

Round to the nearest number for LA, and note that I must approve the result and may adjust it. Round down when dividing by 2 to find CR adjustment.

I would allow most base creatures within reason for PCs, though I'd prefer close to human and would rather not have Outsiders involved.

BTW I have wight and mohrg templates done, if you want one of those.

 

[Nephtys]

What kind of password trouble are you having?

I don't get one. According to the board my user name is already taken, and when I request that the password be sent to me I get nothing, so supposedly it's been taken by someone else. Even trying to create a new account still doesn't result in anything... But I'll try it again.

When converting non-template undead to a template, you still get the abilities you had in life as the base creature, but not any additional abilities that the undead monster entry has which are due to it being made from some other creature. Ex. If there was a "frost bird" undead monster which can fly, that is due to it being based on a bird. You can make "frost" into a template and apply it to a human, but the new template won't grant flight. You can make an updated "frost bird" which will fly, by applying your template to a bird.

Round to the nearest number for LA, and note that I must approve the result and may adjust it. Round down when dividing by 2 to find CR adjustment.

I would allow most base creatures within reason for PCs, though I'd prefer close to human and would rather not have Outsiders involved.

BTW I have wight and mohrg templates done, if you want one of those.

Ok, so a Zombie Troll would get all the abilities of both zombie and troll (including regeneration )...

I'm considering making a Ghoul PC, and I've calculated the LA to 1,34. Is that correct?

 

[kinem]

Hi. A zombie troll wouldn't regenerate for three reasons:

1. The zombie template in the MM (3.5) specifically removes su abilities and such.
2. No undead can have regeneration, because WotC has ruled that when a creature becomes immune to subdual damage, regeneration is replaced by fast healing.
3. I don't like regeneration, and don't use it in my campaign. Instead I give it fast healing and let half of the damage it takes be treated as subdual, except that whatever bypasses the listed regeneration is all lethal and doesn't fast heal.

For a ghoul, my formula would give an LA of 1+1-(2/3), or LA 1, which seems too low. It should be 3 or 4.

Let's see, a LA 3 ghoul would get:
undead type; convert HD to d12
+2 natural armor
bite 1d6+paralysis+fever and claws 1d3+paralysis
- paralysis (Fort DC 10+1/2 HD + Cha bonus negates) for 1d4+1 rounds; elves immune
- ghoul fever (Fort DC 10+1/2 HD + Cha bonus negates) incubation period 1 day,
damage 1d3 Con and 1d3 Dex
- create spawn (any humanoid who dies from ghoul fever becomes a zombie next midnight, not under the ghoul's control)
- str +2, dex +4, con --, int +2, wis +4, cha +2
- turn resistance 5

I could go LA 4, but LA 3 seems about right. Undead type, unbalanced abilities, paralysis (x3, though short duration and claws interfere with weapon use), and some extras. OTOH, no DR and no special abilities that could affect other undead; the create spawn ability is fairly weak. Hmm ... OK, LA 3, CR +1