PH proper names in non-GH campaigns

Quasqueton said:
For those of you running or playing in home brew campaigns worlds:

Do you use the PH gods? (Pelor, Hextor, Vecna, etc.)

Who are the individuals named in the spell lists? (Mordenkainen, Tenser, Melf, etc.)

How about those of you who use published (but not-Greyhawk) campaigns? Do you use/accept the PH gods and wizard names?

Just curious if you address this in your campaigns, or if you just "erase" them from the game for your world.

Quasqueton

Well for the named spells, we just keep Mord and Melf, but Tenser... well becomes Tensen. Even though I'm a player and not a character... mostly because it was a slip of the tongue too many times, that is was just easier to make regular.
 

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d4 said:
i'm interested to hear what the "official" line is for FR. does Elminster cast a Mordenkainen's disjunction, or is called something different there?

I don't know if this has been mentioned in any 3e FR product but one of the 2e ones discussed it. I think it was the Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover. If I remember correctly, the assumption was that there was enough interplanar traffic between the two worlds that the spells came over that way. Several of the more powerful wizards from each world were said to know each other or have rivalries or something.
 

I only use the PHB gods if I'm really winging it and haven't had time to think of any others. I do, however, not care about the names attached to a handful of spells.
 

Davelozzi said:


I don't know if this has been mentioned in any 3e FR product but one of the 2e ones discussed it. I think it was the Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover. If I remember correctly, the assumption was that there was enough interplanar traffic between the two worlds that the spells came over that way. Several of the more powerful wizards from each world were said to know each other or have rivalries or something.

Also that 2e FR Netheril boxed set had a bunch of renames for a lot of spells that reflect their "original" creators before they became generic.
 

Davelozzi said:


I don't know if this has been mentioned in any 3e FR product but one of the 2e ones discussed it. I think it was the Forgotten Realms Adventures hardcover. If I remember correctly, the assumption was that there was enough interplanar traffic between the two worlds that the spells came over that way. Several of the more powerful wizards from each world were said to know each other or have rivalries or something.
Right. FR4 The Magister discusses this as well. The qualifier is that a few spells, such as Tenser's floating disc, existed in some form before the named version.

slade's Netheril box is one I prefer to ignore.
 

d4 said:

i'm interested to hear what the "official" line is for FR. does Elminster cast a Mordenkainen's disjunction, or is called something different there?

Ed Greenwood used to have a semi-regular column in Dragon where he played host to Eliminster, Mordenkainen and Dalamar (from Dragonlance), made them coffee, toast, etc and listened to them swap spells. So I suppose ...
 

I used my own set of gods. Every name inthe PHB and the old artifacts from the 1e DMG were in my world and I could tell my players something about them even if it had to be total hooey made upon the spot.

I even used Emirikol the Chaotic in an adventure I ran.
 

In my 1e home campaign of Mendenein (which is within the same planar space-time/multiverse as Greyhawk), I renamed the Gh and FR spells and ditched most of the GH gods, though some gods, organizations, etc. crossed over from world-to-world or were thinly renamed versions of the Greyhawk originals.

When I play 3e I'm playing Greyhawk, but some of my Mendenein gods, NPCs, and what-not are around in Greyhawk, too. Kinda works both ways :D
 

The game I play in right now uses the PH gods, though it's not a Greyhawk game. My homebrew uses a combination of Book of the Righteous and my own creations, but I'm not running it at the moment.
 

I don't use the GH gods, save for a couple inspirations off them. The spell names have been around so long that we just use them as they are; the spell names were around a long time before we ever even knew that they were named after Greyhawk wizards. In fact, in all the years I've been playing never once has a player ever asked 'So who was Tenser, anyway?'.
 

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