PHB2 Races = Mos Eisley Cantina

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

You do have to use gnomes, though. That is REQUIRED!

 

[Gunpowder]

Beg your pardon?

Tolkien automatically means high quality for him apparently.
I cant fault him if tolkien fantasy is his favorite but quality is independent of whether he likes it or not.

 

[Branduil]

You do have to use gnomes, though. That is REQUIRED!

Well, naturally.

You have to use something to test the catapults, after all.

 

[Klaus]

Resistor, you speak in FACTS.

It is much easier to add exotic flavors to a soup than it is to remove them once they are mixed in.

To a soup, yes.

But we're talking about roleplaying games, here.

And in that media, it's FAR more easy to remove something than to add something. Don't like tieflings? They don't exist in the campaign world. You'll be losing what, 5 pages of the PHB?

The group I'm DMing has
2x humans
1x tiefling
1x dragonborn

The group I play in has
4x humans
1x half-elf
1x dwarf

In the latter, the DM chose, for story reasons, that elves and eladrin were extinct in the world.

 

[Obryn]

1) Everything Is Core

You see, once again I think there's a problem here with definitions. Specifically, with conflating two different definitions of "Core."

One interpretation of "core" is basically "these are the books you need in order to play the game." By this definition, the 4e PHB, DMG, and MM are the "core"

Another, separate definition of core is "this is setting-neutral and can be used in any campaign." (Or, if you prefer, "this uses the implied setting.")

4e's PHB2 is a core supplement in the same way that 3e's PHB2 is a core supplement - that is, in the second sense, not the first. It's not core in the sense of a book that's required for play - and neither will be DMG2, MM2, PHB3, and so on.

-O

 

[mhacdebhandia]

THIS is Dungeons & Dragons?

Yep. Tolkien. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Doctor Proctor]

The group I play in has
4x humans
1x half-elf
1x dwarf

In the latter, the DM chose, for story reasons, that elves and eladrin were extinct in the world.

Then how do you have half-elves?

 

[Scribble]

Then how do you have half-elves?

Necrophillia?

 

[Branduil]

Then how do you have half-elves?

Ever read Jurassic Park?

 

[Miyaa]

If I ever DM again, I will remove the concept of the half-race concept for clarity. Now, I'm not sure if I would include the concept of bloodlines, that is you aren't a particular race, but you may have had a particular race in your blood/ancestry (i.e. dragon bloodlines). I do have to admit though that the half-orcs artwork in PHB2 are the most attractive I've seen since the Kingdom of Kalamar's artwork for the female half-hobgoblin.

One thing I have noticed that I like about the 4th edition races is that by and large they are weaker than their 3rd edition counterparts, so that you don't need to factor an ECL to how common, uncommon or rare a race should be. Dopplegangers are a prime example. They're basically the Changlings of 3rd edition Eberron, which are much weaker than their Doppleganger cousins.

By the way, I'm glad no one has told a (insert three different races) walk into a bar joke.