Phyrric Legacy - Shackled City OOC Thread

[stonegod]

btw, I think Jon 3 pp remaining. Hasn't he used his Resilience twice and Inertial Armor once in this day?

I looked and could only fine the internal armor and one use of resilience making this this second use for a total of 3pp out of his six unless I missed something.

The armor would not have had an effect on the grapple touch attack (its an armor, not a deflection bonus), but its nice to have anyway.

 

[Malvoisin]

Right, I agree with the pp remaining: 3.

Your post above (#337) said 4 remaining, if I read it correctly, so I was questioning that.

 

[Malvoisin]

Are there rules for pulling someone out of a grapple, or is Aid Another as close as you can get?

Aid Another to help Jon make his own escape roll is probably the way to handle it. I looked at the SRD for Grapple rules, and I didn't see anything about pulling someone else free from being grappled.

Having said that, I confess to being one of those people who has to look at the rules every time a grapple takes place, so I'm certainly not an expert.

edit: I just looked at Liracor's action in the IC thread, and it appears from the stated action that he wants to join the grapple himself, rather than help Jon escape.

That is to say, that even if Liracor successfully grapples the rags, it doesn't mean the rags stop grappling Jon.

Agree? Disagree?

 

[stonegod]

Aid Another to help Jon make his own escape roll is probably the way to handle it. I looked at the SRD for Grapple rules, and I didn't see anything about pulling someone else free from being grappled.

Having said that, I confess to being one of those people who has to look at the rules every time a grapple takes place, so I'm certainly not an expert.

edit: I just looked at Liracor's action in the IC thread, and it appears from the stated action that he wants to join the grapple himself, rather than help Jon escape.

That is to say, that even if Liracor successfully grapples the rags, it doesn't mean the rags stop grappling Jon.

Agree? Disagree?

Licracor can join the grapple w/ a successful check. Then he can use a grapple check to free Jon (you can break another's hold just as you can break another's pin).

Anyone can attack the thing grappling, and it does not receive cover from Jon. It also losses its Dex bonus when grappling. Ranged attacks have a 50/50 chance of hitting Jon instead.

 

[Malvoisin]

Licracor can join the grapple w/ a successful check. Then he can use a grapple check to free Jon (you can break another's hold just as you can break another's pin).

Anyone can attack the thing grappling, and it does not receive cover from Jon. It also losses its Dex bonus when grappling. Ranged attacks have a 50/50 chance of hitting Jon instead.

Thanks, stonegod, that's helpful. He can't join the grapple and try to free Jon in one round, though, right? Each is a separate standard action, I'm assuming?

 

[stonegod]

Thanks, stonegod, that's helpful. He can't join the grapple and try to free Jon in one round, though, right? Each is a separate standard action, I'm assuming?

Each is an "attack action"--i.e., something he can make as part of an attack. So, if he had iterative attacks (+6/+1), he could grapple then break the pin in one round, assuming he was close enough to initiate the grapple.

I played a dwarven grappling monk, so I got these rules down cold.

 

[Question]

I meant to use grapple actions to free jon from the grapple, yes, sorry if that was not clear.

 

[Malvoisin]

I'm going to hold off on the next combat round a bit, in hopes that Question and Jdvn1 will be able to post combat actions for Liracor and Dowlee.

 

[Malvoisin]

*bump* trying to draw Jdvn1's attention...

 

[Jdvn1]

*bump* trying to draw Jdvn1's attention...

Hi, howya doin'? How's the family?

See, I have an excuse. I was waiting to make sure Liracor would move so that Jon would take a 5' step and I could cure him... except just now I realized that it'd be pointless for me to delay because I could just do it next round and it'd be exactly the same thing. So, um,

Heh, oops.