[Players Chosen] Do You Have What It Takes To Join The Nameless Legion?

[Harvey]

And if by monday there are no other takers, I'll play Faceless. As I said, he's grown on me and if you can manage three whole lances, then I can manage two characters

Very cool. Though I noticed some players are posting new characters...

I don't think I determined Shadow's origins, which is fine for her. Also, do you mind if I make a quick change to her alignment? She was sort of leaning towards NG, but I didn't see anyone else who was good, but apparently I missed at least one person with a G alignment, and I think it suits her a bit more.

I'll finish out her generic Equipment tonight

Sounds good. Have no problems with the alignment change...

A couple questions: How long have we been part of this lance? Do/should we know each other or can some of us know each other?

You all can definitely know each other, though keep in mind that this will be your first mission all together as a group. While there are thousands and thousands of Legion members (they are legion, after all ), those that have been members for some time could have easily found themselves working together on past missions. Or have heard of other players. Or, for instance, one of the PCs may have worked on a squad led by Freeze (Scorch's friend) or on a squad with Keesha (Gyre's rival).

Sons of Shadow, while it fits with the underground race, of course, certainly doesn't fit from the task side of that cadre; the gloura, while she comes from the Underdark is not particulary well-suited for underground tasks, funny enough, the don't even get Knowledge (dungeoneering), but Knowledge (nature) instead.

Rune Bearers would probably be the most fitting. The Storm Howlers would also work, but I think Rune Bearers is the best fit, so unless there is something, which I havn't considered, and which would make this a queer choice, I would go with that.

Whichever cadre works best for your backstory is what I'd go with. But keep in mind that, if Slyv has been around long enough, she's probably worked for a few different cadres. She could have been stereotyped and placed in the Sons of Shadow during her first few months, but it might have become evident she was really geared towards the Rune Bearers...

Heironeous and Hextor are Greyhawk gods, so it´s unlikely Warfiend´s from Faerun.

Oops! My bad... I'll fix that one...

Done and done.
Regarding the spells: Base for a Warmage 11 is 6/6/6/6/6/4, I have cha 22, so bonus spells is -/2/2/1/1/1, so I should actually have 6/8/8/7/7/5
The rest is updated.

Figured there was something I overlooked somewhere... looks good then!

I used some of the extra cash to buy her some stuff for her hobbies, if you don't mind.

No problem, so long as weight and all is OK. I figured you'd be stocking her with some mundane equipment too sooner or later...

Now, about the bard and psion together... I definitely see your point, which was one I missed when putting these lances together. Still, it took me quite a bit of time to choose which characters were in which squads, and no matter how I pushed and pulled characters, I left a hole somewhere.

I definitely suggest you deal with the issue of the bard and psion together in game! Some paper-pusher in the Legion head offices (or who knows? maybe your boss) decided this would make a strategically sound lance, and you all see it differently. Stuff like this happens all the time in the Legion. (heck, you try running thousands upon thousands of troops ) Makes for some drama even before the first mission!

 

[Harvey]

ShaggySpellsword:
-- Can you add Trick's minor shape change ability under abilities?
-- Not sure how you built his stats... when I do the math I come out under the 32 point buy. I have:
Str 8 + 4 (point) +4 (belt) = 16 [4 pts]
Dex 8 + 7 (points) + 2 (gloves) + 3 (level) = 20 [8 pts]
Con 8 + 2 (points) = 10 [2 pts]
Int 8 + 8 (points) + 2 (headband) = 18 [10 pts]
Wis 8 [0 pts]
Cha 8 + 6 (points) = 14 [6 pts]
Total points = 30 points. Can you let me know how your build went?
-- The same with total skill points to spend. I get a different number.
-- The +5 Glamered Studded Leather costs 27,875gp, not 27,825gp
-- The adamantine rapier costs 11,020gp, not 11,320gp (In the description for adamantine, it points out that items made of adamantine are considered masterwork and the masterwork cost is included in the price given- DMG pg 283)
-- The silver kukri costs 8,328gp, not 18,328gp
-- Your traveller's outfit does not count against your weight carried (PHB pg 131)
-- I traditionally don't count small amounts of coins towards load capacity, so feel free to not count your 30gp, 9sp.
-- I put your cadre down as one of the "Unspoken Ones", which I think reflects your shapechanging abilities. You can either a) remain a member of the Unspoken Ones and come up with a cover cadre for the group or b) choose another cadre to be a member of.

 

[Albedo]

So, whens the decision for the last member for lance 3 coming out?

 

[ShaggySpellsword]

My math skills ain't so hot!

My stats:

Str 8 + 4 (point) +4 (belt) = 16 [4 pts]
Dex 8 + 7 (points) + 2 (gloves) + 3 (level) = 20 [8 pts]
Con 8 + 4 (points) = 10 [4 pts]
Int 8 + 8 (points) + 2 (headband) = 18 [10 pts]
Wis 8 [0 pts]
Cha 8 + 6 (points) = 14 [6 pts]

Skills: 141 points: I spent my skills slightly differently to reflect this.

Everything else is added or changed, some more gear bought to reflect the 10,000+ gp errors I made. Oops.

Also: I am fine with the Unspoken Ones as my Cadre...so di I need a different Cadre as my cover? In which case I would likely choose Thoughts of War (Expert soldier trained in gaining various tactical advantages on the battlefield...not to mention doing through force of personality what others must do through Psionics).

 

[Rino]

okay, i'm not in a lance, but but am i on the back up list of the other lances? or you i have to make a skill monger/rogue to fit into one?

 

[Dakkareth]

I definitely suggest you deal with the issue of the bard and psion together in game! Some paper-pusher in the Legion head offices (or who knows? maybe your boss) decided this would make a strategically sound lance, and you all see it differently. Stuff like this happens all the time in the Legion.

Well, there's Aid Another - wasn't there some rule for greater boni, if you made a higher DC than the usual 10? And I can see situations, where Sylv (whose presence must be nothing short of breath-taking ) would be the 'appropriate' character to deal with what comes up, and others, where it would be Shackler's turn.

The healing factor might be something to look at, but psions for once excel at independence ... if the other characters are similarly equipped it might not even be a problem.

 

[Thanee]

Now, about the bard and psion together... I definitely see your point, which was one I missed when putting these lances together.

No worries, just thought it would be best to address this, if deemed necessary, before we start, since at the time I wrote that post, our main offensive spells/powers were pretty much exactly the same (Shackler has a few more options, of course, being a pure manifester, while Sylv is a bit of a mix).

As I said, while finishing the sheet, I made a few subtle changes (i.e. swapped out Dominate Person for Hold Monster) to lessen the impact of this overlap for both of us a bit.

I definitely suggest you deal with the issue of the bard and psion together in game! Some paper-pusher in the Legion head offices (or who knows? maybe your boss) decided this would make a strategically sound lance, and you all see it differently. Stuff like this happens all the time in the Legion. (heck, you try running thousands upon thousands of troops ) Makes for some drama even before the first mission!

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

Whichever cadre works best for your backstory is what I'd go with. But keep in mind that, if Slyv has been around long enough, she's probably worked for a few different cadres. She could have been stereotyped and placed in the Sons of Shadow during her first few months, but it might have become evident she was really geared towards the Rune Bearers...

Well, considering, that Sylv was already quite powerful (at least ECL 9 ) when she got there, I figured, that she wasn't with the Legion for very long yet. So, she was probably put into the Rune Bearers pretty fast, maybe with a short interlude with the Sons of Shadow, where she might have gotten her cloak and boots.

I'll update the background during the next days, while we sort the last bits out...

Bye
Thanee

 

[Bront]

No worries, just thought it would be best to address this, if deemed necessary, before we start, since at the time I wrote that post, our main offensive spells/powers were pretty much exactly the same (Shackler has a few more options, of course, being a pure manifester, while Sylv is a bit of a mix).

As I said, while finishing the sheet, I made a few subtle changes (i.e. swapped out Dominate Person for Hold Monster) to lessen the impact of this overlap for both of us a bit.





Bye
Thanee

Doesn't help that Shadow's a low level psion (Egoist) too, but she's a fairly well rounder character, and her powers are built more to augment her stealth as well as add the occasional offensive punch (A few direct damage manifestations). That may change a bit as she becomes a more powerful psion, she still won't get full advancement.

Looking at Gyre, we have a fairly mobile and lithe lance. Thanee is the closest thing we have to a tank, which is a bit scary, but it should be a fun lance.

Oh Thanee, if you still have contacts in the Sons of Shadow, you might have heard a few rumors about Shadow, so feel free to breeze through her background.

 

[Thanee]

Shadow isn't a telepath, tho, it's just the really similar focus of the main spells/powers, I was talking about, that's like an evocation specialist wizard plus a warmage, just a bit worse, because of the nature of enchantments (they don't 'stack up' well, if you know what I mean).

And I don't think Gyre will do a bad job as a 'tank' either, even though Sylv has the better defense. But Gyre is dangerous, too.

Cool, I'll keep shadow's background in mind, then.

Bye
Thanee