Players Handbook II

[hong]

Hmm ... I live less than 100 meters from Carlsberg Breweries in Copenhagen,

I am sooo crashing in on you if and when I make it from SAtLDU[*] up to Danemark. (It's that bit sticking up from Germany, right?)

but you couldn't get me to drink that kind of pi55.

More for the rest of us! I'll bring along a slab of the other kind of pi55.


[*] Sunny Austria, the Land Down Under. Say, has anyone seen my fellow Austrian, Darkness, lately? He's gone all quiet....

 

[Tewligan]

I think that the core classes in 3E are flexible enough now that you don't really need anymore. Feats and skills give plenty of flexibility in determining your character's flavor (hey, my wizard can wear armor and swing a sword now!), and multiclassing lets you round him out to better fit your concept. For example, I've always felt that the 3E ranger is almost unnecessary, since you could almost build one with the fighter, using the proper skill and feat choices.
Really, in a game as big as D&D, you aren't going to be able to stuff it all into one book - unless of course, you don't mind toting around a big book with several hundred pages. Something I'm considering doing is holepunching all of my splatbooks and miscellaneous other skinny softcovers, and putting them all into one big binder to help keep things a little tidier.

 

[AGGEMAM]

I am sooo crashing in on you if and when I make it from SAtLDU[*] up to Danemark. (It's that bit sticking up from Germany, right?)

Right! In german it is called Danemark, in danish, however it is Danmark.

You'd be mighty welcome to crash here, as long as you not coming between the 21st of June and the 2nd of July, where I am at Roskilde Festival.

EDIT: oh .. and you simply have to see my local hangouts; The Australian Bar and The Southern Cross Pub. No kidding.

 

[Frostmarrow]

Sorry about the confusion Crothian. Sometimes I mix examples up with what I'm actually saying, creating a mess. You should take a look into my head.

What I mean is this: The PHB2 should be a copy of PHB with the crunchy stuff exchanged for new crunchy stuff. If some of the stuff happend to be rewritten from previous publication to some extent I don't mind. (Such as the Deities and Demigods featuring feats from various splatbooks.)

The rules for skills should be identical but the example-DCs should be different. It should feature new art. It should feature new classes in place of the old ones. It should have feat chains but not the ones we are used to. It should have familiars (if a new class warrants it) but the actual animals should be replaced. A shadow copy of the old PHB. A twin. The chapter on character should have the same alignments but different gods (Perhaps Rao instead of Heironeus ans so forth). Some spells might be rewritten but some should be new as per whatever the new classes demands. Just bring one or the other and buy both or the one you like best.

I don't mean to print a book with everything already released.

So... Back to the beer. AGGEMAM I actually have a slab of Ceres in the fridge and I agree that it's perfect.

 

[AGGEMAM]

So... Back to the beer. AGGEMAM I actually have a slab of Ceres in the fridge and I agree that it's perfect.

Whoow .. the next thing you're gonna tell me is that you are coming to the Roskilde Festival, right?

 

[Frostmarrow]

Whoow .. the next thing you're gonna tell me is that you are coming to the Roskilde Festival, right?

There has been talk... I'm not sure yet as I need to coordinate it with friends and fiancé.

 

[AGGEMAM]

There has been talk... I'm not sure yet as I need to coordinate it with friends and fiancé.

Get on it, then. I bringing mine, friends and fiance, that is.

As well, most of my swedish friends are going, that is about 40 in total, but as we say: "the more, the merrier".

 

[Staffan]

(It's that bit sticking up from Germany, right?)

Well, that's part of Denmark. There are also a bunch of islands between that bit (which I think is called Jutland in English) and Sweden that are also Danish.

 

[Grazzt]

Hi Frostmarrow!



Don't you mean Unearthed Arcana - because that is almost exactly the book you are prescribing.

I am sure WotC will get round to it eventually.

Oh lord UK- you had to go and mention that one.

 

[Zappo]

Frostmarrow, the campaign settings' crunchy bits and the splatbooks serve the purpose of giving new options.
Printing a new player's handbook would be illogical, because it would practically be another different d20 game, incompatible with 100% of the material out there. The closest thing I think would be viable would be an "Unearthed Arcana 3e" (minus the balance issues, that is). And even then, I don't see what's wrong with the splatbooks. They are already doing exactly what you ask, plus I don't have to buy them all at once.

Anyway... there is no way that WotC ever prints something designed to substitute the PHB. It would be financially counterproductive (the PHB is the largest D&D source of revenue), create massive confusion, and be largely useless since they can just print more splatbooks which would be cheaper, would not damage the sales of PHBs, would provide exactly the same content, and would not confuse the players.