Playing Dhampyr

I'm wondering if (read: hoping that) we're getting a pile of bloodlines in the PHB2. Demon-blooded seems inevitable, as does some sort of Far Realm line. Maybe trolls (base feat granting bloodied regeneration 2)? Fey, with eladrin allowed to take the rest of the chain without taking the first feat?
 

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It looks like the Mist Form feat is a get out of jail free card (aka "evade death" once daily). In the initial designs that were advertised to playtesters and the general community, these sort of powers were reserved for Epic tier. Frankly, this power stinks of SPLAT.

However, I do like the idea of some sort of template-based mechanic for character-altering templates (vampirism, werecreatures, dragonmarks and the like).
 



@ Moridin (or anyone else with an opinion) - I have a question regarding the Savage Bite feat. It's a clumsy read IMO, but am I right in assuming the feat does 2 things:

1 - Allows you to use blood drain without grabbing a target
2 - The target of the blood drain grants combat advantage to you for the attack

Yes/no?

Regardless, I want to play a dhampyr elf brutal scoundrel rogue right now!
 

Well, I should be able to create my fighter/wizard dragonmarked dhamphyr half-elf, shouldn't I? ;)

Well is Dragonmarked a bloodline? As mentioned in the article, you can only have 1 bloodline. So you couldn't be a dragonmarked dhamphyr in that case.

Otherwise, why not? You spend a feat to multiclass, you spend a feat to get dhamphyr, and you spend a feat to be dragonmarked... now what?

Multiclassing (don't forget Spellscared) and Bloodlines work by the first feat giving you a little something, but you really need to spend more feats on it to really ramp in the power, so getting more of them really eachs up your feat tally. So you are only going to get a nibble into these other fields. Don't forget, you are swapping powers from your main class as well, so it's not like you are just tacking on tons of stuff. Plus you are probably going to want to forgo your paragon path for deep multiclassing.

So, from a min/max perspective its not going to get your what you want. From a diversification/uniqueness perspective, sounds fun!
 


Well, right. Its just that, at the heroic tier, it basically costs you two actions and has a low chance of success. First, you have to grab the target. That round you do no damage, and immobilize. Then the target gets two move actions to escape, or one to escape and one to attack you just as if it were never grabbed in the first place. Then, if it failed all its escape attempts, you can do small damage and spend a healing surge. You'd be better off using Second Wind.
Sure, but a Dhampyr has access to second wind and the blood drain attack - two seperate ways to independantly heal yourself.
 

@ Moridin (or anyone else with an opinion) - I have a question regarding the Savage Bite feat. It's a clumsy read IMO, but am I right in assuming the feat does 2 things:

1 - Allows you to use blood drain without grabbing a target
2 - The target of the blood drain grants combat advantage to you for the attack

Yes/no?

Regardless, I want to play a dhampyr elf brutal scoundrel rogue right now!

That's...odd. When it left my desk, it was "you can use blood drain against a target that you have combat advantage against, even if you do not have that target grabbed." I'll see if it got changed on purpose, of if the editor just misunderstood the intent.
 

Thanks for the quick response Moridin! Your version of the feat makes a lot more sense - here's to hoping it gets some errata soon!
 

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