D&D 5E Playtested dat 5e at Gencon.

[Danzauker]

I'd like cantrips to be at will but require you to wield a wand, orb or whatever "implement" is defined in 4E.

Maybe a little Harry Potterish, but I think it makes sense that since you don't have to prepare them like other spells you need some other focus.

That would put them on par with weapons (at will use but lock your hand), plus it gives an in story way of not having laser shhoting peopla around in a tavern.

"Wanna come in? Leave your wands and swords at the entrance".

 

[dd.stevenson]

To have a 1 in 6 chance of failing at the simplest spell? That has to be the crappiest Wizard in existance.

Who said anything about failing?

 

[variant]

Who said anything about failing?

Ah, I see. I misread what you said.

 

[Falling Icicle]

And hey, if you don't like at-will attack spells you don't have to use them. Help yourself to a crossbow. Just don't begrudge people at the table that do.

Was this directed at me? I do like at-will attack spells.

 

[keterys]

The very first line in how to play for cantrips..."cantrips are spells...". They are also listed in the spell list for a Mage (or whichever caster) and the argument they are not "0" level spells and they must be off a "level" the caster can cast is a little weak ..

Now, I think the big red flag is creating scrolls with cantrips take 0 time, cost zero resources (infinitely adding 0 = 0) means two mages in a party de facto know each others cantrips and can cast them at will (effectively)

Cantrips are not level 0 spells (unless the rules actually say they are). Ergo, there's no problem caused with the formula and this entire statement is null.

So, no big red flag.

 

[Warbringer]

Cantrips are not level 0 spells (unless the rules actually say they are). Ergo, there's no problem caused with the formula and this entire statement is null.

So, no big red flag.

Ok, but the rules clearly state they are spells, so I guess spells without a level...

Good to see rules lawyering alive and well in Next

 

[jodyjohnson]

I was on an anti-house ruling kick for 12 years. But I got better. Thank you Mike Mearls.

 

[keterys]

Ok, but the rules clearly state they are spells, so I guess spells without a level...

Good to see rules lawyering alive and well in Next

Eh, when people try to make up rules that allow infinite free scrolls, I think it's reasonable to say "Nah, you're wrong. Proceed"

 

[Warbringer]

Eh, when people try to make up rules that allow infinite free scrolls, I think it's reasonable to say "Nah, you're wrong. Proceed"

"Free" .. You mean "0 cost". ...

 

[Weather Report]

5e is shaping up to be a pre-3.0 "Rules lawyers to the back of the bus edition".

Thank god, 3rd Ed has way too much Magic influence (I mean, Richard Adkinson was involved...)..