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[cthulhucthulhu1453]

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[John Dallman]

Because the main DM was not present, the secondary DM allowed them to enter the town assuming there being no guards at the gate. . . . The secondary DM also assumed that the prison guards were absent.

That's where things went off the rails. If I were the secondary DM and didn't feel I could run the town, I'd stop stop the session at the point where I'd otherwise have to, rather than assuming everyone is absent.

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

This is a mess that I see with West Marches - as was said, once something started going into someone else's material, I feel a time out should have been called.

Secondly - so the cleric of the god of knowledge killed a helpless prisoner? That's not very heroic - I don't care if it happens in town or taking prisoners outside of the town to off them. Yes, they're enemies, but they're clearly no threat.

Exiling the cleric is the least thing that should happen to him. As you said in your post he 'excitedly' killed them. Given that the town has a very light and Keystone Kops kind of vibe from where I'm reading, that's DRASTICALLY against everything going on in that town.

 

[cthulhucthulhu1453]

This is a mess that I see with West Marches - as was said, once something started going into someone else's material, I feel a time out should have been called.

Secondly - so the cleric of the god of knowledge killed a helpless prisoner? That's not very heroic - I don't care if it happens in town or taking prisoners outside of the town to off them. Yes, they're enemies, but they're clearly no threat.

Exiling the cleric is the least thing that should happen to him. As you said in your post he 'excitedly' killed them. Given that the town has a very light and Keystone Kops kind of vibe from where I'm reading, that's DRASTICALLY against everything going on in that town.

For I heard of , it seems the tribe have some sort of honorable warrior culture stuff. So the cleric fulling the shamen s wish , well , kind of legit in that context. More like assisted suicide , sort of.

But I agree with you , thats against the vibe of the town.

If thats more dark fantasy vibe , like Berserk , then killing the shaman , fulling his wish for warrior culture stuff may be reasonable ........

 

[TiQuinn]

For I heard of , it seems the tribe have some sort of honorable warrior culture stuff. So the cleric fulling the shamen s wish , well , kind of legit in that context. More like assisted suicide , sort of.

But I agree with you , thats against the vibe of the town.

If thats more dark fantasy vibe , like Berserk , then killing the shaman , fulling his wish for warrior culture stuff may be reasonable ........

That may be their culture, but it’s not the cleric’s culture. The whole honorable warrior who wants death thing seems like the sort of character trait designed to cause “moral quandaries” that are also gotchas.

 

[John Dallman]

If that's more dark fantasy vibe, like Berserk, then killing the shaman , fulling his wish for warrior culture stuff may be reasonable ...

Even in dark fantasy, telling law enforcement that you killed someone "because he wanted to be killed" is a hard story to sell without a lot of witnesses and supporting evidence.

 

[Theory of Games]

 

[Crusadius]

People executing others without the Mayor's permission (or deputisation) would weaken the Mayor's authority, no matter the status of the prisoner, and by exiling the problem the Mayor enforces their authority and sends a signal to others that killing prisoners without the Mayor's permission will result in exile at the very least.

I'm surprised the second DM did not even think that a town surrounded by evil wouldn't have guards at the gates (and walls), and that the prison that houses criminals wouldn't also be manned by guards (to keep them from escaping via mundane means like lock picks or ladders hidden in cakes).

 

[mamba]

I'm surprised the second DM did not even think that a town surrounded by evil wouldn't have guards at the gates (and walls), and that the prison that houses criminals wouldn't also be manned by guards (to keep them from escaping via mundane means like lock picks or ladders hidden in cakes).

why hide them in cakes, walk in and hand it to the prisoner, it’s not like there is anyone there to stop you…

 

[aco175]

The whole problem with multiple DMs. It's good that there is a 'head' DM and others that are more back-up, but it seems that each has their own flavor and ideas of what and who are the adventure.

I'm not sure how to solve the problem. I guess one way is to have the cleric go on an adventure to help the town and redeem himself.