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[Morrus]

I think when it comes down to it, the reason I'm hesitant is that all of the requests I get can basically be summed up with "How can I have more stuff?", whereas I'm of the opinion that the amount of gear that people are actually walking round with is pretty ludicrous as it is. People fairly easily beat critters with twice their challenge rating due to having more loot than god himself.

 

[valn]

You know, as much as I love my character Kebur, if I wanted to play him in a Pen and Paper (PnP) game, I'd practically have to strip him naked!

I used to play NWN solo before getting on this PW. The solo modules I got through (many made by Chris Huntoon; never played Bioware's campaigns) had very little loot and I was lucky if I made more money out of an adventure than I spent on potions and scrolls.. Not that I cared, because they were so much fun! So you can imagine how baffled I was when I started playing Path of Ascension (PoA), with money on the ground and weapons +1 under boulders!

After a time, I realized that NWN isn't D&D. It's good, but it doesn't play the same. And specifically, PoA is Monty Haulish! No one can deny that! It's not that I want more stuff, but rather I feel like I need to, just to survive...

When I think in PnP terms, I feel like I have way too much equipment in my inventory! But when I compare myself to others my level on PoA, I feel severly underequiped... I mean, my favored weapons are only +1 with minor effects and my plate is still +1. I feel munchkiny walking around with all those immunities. But can someone survive in PoA without them? It seems like the designer of the modules created every areas knowing what kind of gear the PCs would have access to, and expected them to have it.

People have to want not to die, not view it as a minor inconvenience.

I definitely agree with that! And as it is now, I definitely don't want to die.

I know it bugs you having all this loot around and people carrying 100k or 1 million gp and having this uber-equipment. As a DM, I'd probably agree. But I've been playing long enough on PoA to feel it's all part of a certain balance. If you want to tone down the money and equipment, you will probably have to make some changes to most (if not all) areas as well.

Gold is used mainly to buy more stuff, but it's also needed just to go around. A "to/from" trip to Anduin Ruins is 5k gp and to the Catacombs is 10k gp. That used to be a problem for me, and many times I didn't even make that much while I was there... (Not anymore though.)

Anyway, just my opinion and I hope I'm not overstepping myself...
(Shutting up now)

 

[Chaz]

Things is, Chaz... the GP hit is a small percentage. If that small percentage is getting so large, that says more about the amount of money you have than anything else. I'm not convinced it's a good idea; being able to respawn with little to no penalty removes the risk factor. People have to want not to die, not view it as a minor inconvenience.

[I know you didn't say remove all challenges; that was sarcasm. ]

Sorry... I think I maybe didnt explain fully. If the "GP hit was a small percentage" I would have NO problem. Im not the kind of person to say anything if I have to pay a reasonable and fair penalty for failure.
And I DONT expect no penaltys... I wouldnt waste time bringing up the issue if it were as simple as that.

So to explain further... I had on me 1.6 million gold... I lost 1.2(aprox) million gold... Now if the "hit" had indeed been a "Small (or even reasonable) percentage" as you put it, I would never have brought the issue up at all. But I hope that you can see why I felt that the loss of the greater majority of my funds seemed unbalanced to me.

Once again im sorry if my bringing this up upset you in any way. I DONT expect a no penalty game.. I DONT want to log on and get a you win message... Im not a complainer by nature. Sorry if you took it that way, that wasnt my intention.
The only reason I posted was because somebody in game suggested to me that I let you know about it due to the extreme nature of the unbalanced(in my opinion, of course) GP hit I took. But if it doesnt seem that way to you then ok, thats fine.

In fact I dont so much care about the gold as I do the fact that it seemed way over any kind of reasonable "percentage" Amount. Ive already written it off. Just wanted you to know about it.

Peace

 

[Morrus]

So to explain further... I had on me 1.6 million gold... I lost 1.2(aprox) million gold... Now if the "hit" had indeed been a "Small (or even reasonable) percentage" as you put it, I would never have brought the issue up at all. But I hope that you can see why I felt that the loss of the greater majority of my funds seemed unbalanced to me.

Hmmm.... actually, it sounds to me like something's bugged. I don't recall the percentage offhand, but at the very most it should be 10%. If I'd realised you'd lost over two-thirds of your gold, I'd have been a bit more concerned than I was!

I'll check out the scripts and try to figure out what's going on.

 

[Neo]

Hmmm.... actually, it sounds to me like something's bugged. I don't recall the percentage offhand, but at the very most it should be 10%. If I'd realised you'd lost over two-thirds of your gold, I'd have been a bit more concerned than I was!

I'll check out the scripts and try to figure out what's going on.

I can assure you it isn't 10% Morrus, I just got stung by it about 5 mins ago, lag caused my death when a potion of heroism wore off and lag dragged me back to some flying scimitars armour less and unable to catch up with myself...resulting in my death. Then when it did catch up with itself it took a hit of return while I was still alive to mean a respawn when i suddenly turned up dead.... AND if that wasn't bad enough of my 1.1 mil gp's I lost over 560k AND a ring of Heracles in addition to the standard XP penalty..

I mean sure dying is meant to be bad and there should be a cost to it (which there IS anyway without altering it) but the game is also supposed to be fun and having 560k taken for respawning (even though technically I didnt choose too) and a Ring of Heracles worth again like 200k taken from an equipped slot taken... I didn't feel so much as a fear of death as so much as a fear of respawning which is not how it should be.

As i've mentioned earlier up the base GP costs and XP cost for death if need be but the additional script and someone looted your body nonsense (what your party stood around and let someone walk off with 560k and your ring.?) is not good.

If possible I'd like my "other" 40% back please and possibly my ring of heracles as the script is obviously not working correctly. Not to mention the fact i'd rather not have to spend another 3 days making the money back and rebuying a ring for a death that wasnt even my fault, a respawn that wasnt even selected and an extra 40% and an equipped item that was worth another 200k.

 

[T-Bone JiuJitsu]

"All you need to do is place this (unzipped) into your hak folder."

Umm... I have absolutely no idea how to do this. I have downloaded the Hak Pak, but i dont know how to find my hak folder, much less move anything there. HELP! I'm running Windows XP by the way.

 

[youspoonybard]

Well, the default directory is C:\Neverwinter Nights\NWN\ or something, right?

There's a hak directory there...download the file, and put it in the hak directory.

 

[Greylock]

Once you've found the directory, if the HAK folder is missing, just make it yourself. Create a folder, and name it HAK.

 

[T-Bone JiuJitsu]

Thanks for the help, I figured it out. It was quite simple actually.

Just incase anyone else as inept at computers as I am needs help, here's what I did...


I right clicked on the hak pak link provided at the top of this thread. Selected "save", then the menu came up asking where to save it at. I selected C:, then opened the neverwinter nights folder, then found the folder named "Hak" and opened it and hit "save". Done.

 

[Asmo]

I´ve had this had pack installed since it was released but I yet has to figure out what it does. I´ve not seen anything unusual. Can anyone explain what it does?

Asmo