Please Help! designing mammalian sub-species

To replace blindfight feat I have found Monterous feat on MM pg 306

Blindsense (Ex)

Using nonvisual senses such as acute smell hearing notices thigns it cannot see. "Usually does not need to make spot or lsiten checks" (DM discrestion) to pinpoint location of creature withing range of blindsense.

Notes:
1.The range of blindsense will be its balencing factor
2.Any opponent the creature canot see still ahve total concealment against the creature
3.Creature has noraml miss chance of attacking foes the have concealment aginst creature
4.Visiblty still effect movemnt of creature with blindsense
5.Creature with blindsense still denided its DEX bonus to AC against attack from creatures it connot see.

I think this is a better bonus than blindfight as its only partly combat related. It basically just grants them the ability to be the first one in the party to detect the approach of enmies. But dosent give them a better chance to hit things they would normally miss in combat

Similar to an elf ability that they are always passivley searching without a movement redcution.
 

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I don't think you need to simulate everything with the race. Assuming they're going to be bipedal, they're already not normal, so a lack of whiskers wouldn't be too bad.

Glad you like the Katara :) If one of my LEW characters goes away or retires, I'm definately making one (They're accepted in LEW, so you can play them there if you want to try one).
 

what do you mean simulate everything? I like the older idea that Tonguez has, that they get the Virtual Run feat coz i like the idea of being bipedal then going on fours to run (imagining most of these races not using chairs, instead "sitting" like a house cat does.

Also while i really like the whiskers idea, if its too hard tod o ill just get rid of it and give them something like awareness or something :)

I got some big fixes/ideas on the way really interested in what you think of them, thinking these should be more NPC and less Player races, still maybe ill let ppl be Katara in my world coz i love the way you built them! (if thats cool with you) :D

M
 

Hi everyone!

Ok so ive had a big change in this design process because ive basically stopped trying to tailor these races to be playable, and instead making them NPC races for the moment. Some are way to big and scary for players to be (Monstrous races) and being a newish DM i think its safer if they are only under my control and arnt going to totally unbalance the game.

Anyway ive included total approximations of LA/CR (is LA/CR the same thing?) and any suggestions you have on these new versions would be greatly appreciated! Im really looking to balance them (to the closest LA/CR) and also to find some interesting disadvanatges to give them (Ie Jare' and daylight blindness)

Also with the whole "Whiskers" concept i still havnt found a good feat to approximate that. Something that gives them extra sense of air movement around themselves and so helps them understand the area and especially sensitivity to movement near them. Hence under feats ive put *Whiskers* :)
Id love to approximate this but if its too hard then i can always get rid of it.

Anyway thanks everyone for all the help, hope you guys can maybe use these when they are done! :D

M

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Santarai (LA+1-4?) - (Margay Derived)

Small Size
Dex +4, Str -2, Con -2, Int -2, Cha +2
Normal Speed 30
Climb Speed 30 (Excelent Climbers)
Darklight Vision
Bonus Feat: Pounce, *Whiskers*, Track
Incredible Leap - +8 racial bonus to Jump
Natural Grace - +2 racial bonus to Move Silently, Balance, and Tumble. Balance is always a class skill.
1d4 Claw Attack
(Ranger/Rogue)

Diet: Carnivores (Eat Birds)

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Tonarai (LA+2-5?) - Lion/Wookie Derivative (See pic of Togorian on the Front of Star Wars Book - "The Paradise Snare" A. C. Crispin (But lion colours not usually black like the pic)

Large Size (5-10ft reach?)
Females: +2 Str, -2 Int, (-2 Cha?)
Males: +4 Str, -2 Int, -2 Wis, (-2 Cha?)
Normal Speed 30 (Maybe slower?)
Lowlight Vision
Bonus Feat: Pounce, Scent, Rake
1d6 Bite/Claw
Intimidate Bonus (+2?)
Camouflage: +2 hide/move silent in Tall Grass/Plains
Grapple Bonus? (Just Females)
(Barbarian)

Males have manes but only the Alpha male is allowed to grow his. Other males will start to grow out theirs when attempting to compete for dominance in the tribe.

Diet: Carnivores (Eat Large Herbivores (Cows, Elephants etc)

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Kesrai (LA+1-3) - Tiger Derivative

Normal Size
+2 Dex, -2 Con, +2 Wis, -2/4? Cha
Normal Speed 30
Lowlight Vision
Bonus Feat: Pounce, *Whiskers*, Track
1d6 Bite Attack
1d4 Claw Attack
Intimidate Bonus (+2?)
Grapple Bonus (+2?)
(Ranger)

Diet: Carnivores (Eat Grazers, Various Forest Creatures)

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Karai (LA+0/1) - Civilised Descendants of Kesrai

Normal Size
+2 Dex, -4 Con, +2 Int
Normal Speed 30
Bonus Feat: Alertness
1d4 Bite Attack (Evolutionary Leftover)
Craft +2
(Favoured Class:?)

Diet: Omnivores (Civilised by dont cook their meat usually)

Cultural Feature: Claw Bracers
Those Karai growing up in their own society use claw bracers as a cultural symbol. Hence many take Proficiency in Claw bracers at first level? *thoughts?*

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Jare' (LA+1/2?) - (Leopard Derivative)

Normal Size
-2 Str, +2 Dex, +2 Wis, -2 Int
Normal Speed 30
Darkvision
Bonus Feat: Pounce, Alertness
Jump/Climb +2
1d4 Bite/Claw Attack
Natural Grace - +2 racial bonus to Move Silently, Balance, and Tumble. Balance is always a class skill.
Semichameleon Ability: +4 hide for 1 round + bonus langauge (Can be used to communicate basic emotions between members)
+2 Move Silently
Daylight Blindness - -4 to Spot, Search & Sight Related Skills during the Day
(Ranger)

Diet: Carnivores (Eat smaller forest creatures. Monkeys, Deer etc)

Have a white end to their tails. Instinctively raises when not hunting, or in a dangerous situation. A small sign of if a Jare' is angrered or not.

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Jas'ue (LA+0?)

Normal Size
-4 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, +4 Int
Normal Speed 30
Lowlight Vision
Jump/Climb +2
Knowledge is always a class skill
Chameleon Ability: +4 Hide + Bonus Language
(Can be used as a complete language between Jas'ue, including expressing emotion, maturity, hungriness, sexual)
(Wizard)

Diet: Omnivores (Usually cook their meat like humans)

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Other things i thought worth including

So since i havnt come even close to finalising these creatures i figured this was worth including. Also im really interested in some disadvantage type feats (like Bronts Katara have the Wondering mind feat (hence i included it))

If there are any you guys know which you think are worth mentioning would love to hear your suggestions!

Mounterous Abilities which Fit:

Pounce: When creatures with this special attack make a charge, they can follow with a full attack-including rake attacks if the creature also has the rake ability.

Scent: Allows creatures to detect approching enemies, sniff out hidden foes and track by sense of smell, can idenifty familiar odors just as humans can identify using sight.

Rake: creature gains an extra natural attack when it grapples its foe without a -4 pentaly to attack. Must grapple then rake in turn, cant rake and grapple in the same turn.

Possible Bonus Feats which fit (Thanks Bront!):

Keen Ears - +2 racial bonus to Listen,

Natural Grace - +2 racial bonus to Move Silently, Balance, and Tumble. Balance is always a class skill.

Incredible Leap - +8 racial bonus to Jump

Wandering Mind - -1 save vs enchantment/charm effects, -2 racial penalty to sense motive and concentration checks (Katara are extremely curious and as a result, their minds often wander, overlooking dangers most might otherwise see)
 

Jurble said:
what do you mean simulate everything? I like the older idea that Tonguez has, that they get the Virtual Run feat coz i like the idea of being bipedal then going on fours to run (imagining most of these races not using chairs, instead "sitting" like a house cat does.

Also while i really like the whiskers idea, if its too hard tod o ill just get rid of it and give them something like awareness or something :)

I got some big fixes/ideas on the way really interested in what you think of them, thinking these should be more NPC and less Player races, still maybe ill let ppl be Katara in my world coz i love the way you built them! (if thats cool with you) :D

M
By simulate everything, I mean simulate every racial feature (like whiskers) of an animal.
 

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