[Poly] What's happening to Polyhedron/Dungeon?

[Morgenstern]

First, thank you for the direct and up front update.

Saddly, I derive about 4% of my enjoyment of you magazine from the Dungeon side, so news that it is on the way up is not especially exciting for me. That these changes will actually reduce the amount of Poly material out each issue leaves me completely flat. I've never bought an issue of Dungeon - I just started finding them attached to a book I did like.

Whats the odds of getting a semi-annual, or annual compilation of Poly without the advertisments or Dungeon content? I'd love to have the games and support for stuff other than D&D, but with the page count dropping, honestly, I suspect I'll just read through my friends' copies ...

Basically, this thread makes me think you should do what you've got to do to make Dungeon fans happy, but, if you're only gonna do 4 mini-games a year anyway, I'd be first in line to sign up for a separate, quarterly Polyhedron, and let the Dungeon folks have their whole magazine to themselves...

 

[Artimoff]

I'm sorry to say that this just isn't enough. I don't want any Poly in my Dungeon and will be canceling my subscription. 100% Dungeon or no Dungeon and my $7 back? not a tough decision. I'll have a few extra Dragon for that money.

 

[rounser]

Value highly (what I buy Dungeon for)
Adventures.
Side Treks.
Adventure Path series.

Value moderately (acceptable filler)
Maps of Mystery.
Living Greyhawk.
D&D minigames (e.g. Spelljammer, Incursion).
Support for the D&D minigames.

Don't value (not my bag)
Critical Threats.
That other thing on the Dungeon side which involves detailing a single location/room.
The comics.
RPGA news.
Star Wars stuff.
Non-D&D minigames.
Support for the non-D&D minigames.
Letters (although a magazine without them would be strange).

 

[Bob the Reaver]

Wow. How about this...cut all Dungeon and Poly content. Devot all pages to the Mutants and Masterminds game and then ill love you forever. Oh and raise the price (my wife is rich, yeah baby)!

nah jk. I've always loved the mag but im glad the changes are making people happy(less complaining is a GOOD thing, exept what im about to complain about of course)!

If there is anything I cant use its the Star Wars and RPGA coverage...But its ok...But if something ever needs cut, cut that.

Ok then thats good.

 

[Kenpo Wolf]

Quote by Eric Mona
5. The Dungeon/Poly split will no longer be absolute, and instead will depend upon the material we've got on hand. With the rare exception of a Mini-Game that simply won't work in less than 40 pages, the Dungeon side will always be larger than the Poly side. That's not to say the Poly side is going to shrink to oblivion--we're just going to keep it smaller than the other side of the magazine
End Quote

I'll refrain from making a harsh comment and just say I'm not a happy person right now. Although I have every Dugeon since issue #3, but I stopped running the adventures since it went over to 3rd Edition, I have only recently subscribed to it because I loved the Poly content and thought it would have an equal share with Dungeon. It looks like I and other Poly fans was indirectly lied to, to be blunt about it, so I guess cancelling my subscription is in order.

 

[Kenpo Wolf]

Basically, this thread makes me think you should do what you've got to do to make Dungeon fans happy, but, if you're only gonna do 4 mini-games a year anyway, I'd be first in line to sign up for a separate, quarterly Polyhedron, and let the Dungeon folks have their whole magazine to themselves...

I totally agree with Morgenstern since it looks like all you care about is pleasing the Dungeon fans. At least I won't feel like I'll be wasting my money by buying something quarterly that I will use rather than buying a mag every month and probably use less then half of it

Or better yet, I would love to see AEG put out there own RPG mag. If they can bring the same quality to a mag that they bring to their Spycraft line, it would be awesome. It would'nt have to be anything fancy either. I would settle for a format similiar to Paladium's Rifter.

 

[dpmcalister]

I haven't bought Dungeon/Poly in months - I don't play D&D so the scenarios are of no use, and the material in Poly is not worth the money (£3.50 for a mini-game, article and map? No thanks).

Don't get me wrong, I like Poly, just not willing to pay for scenarios I'll never use.

Finally, I agree with Kenpo Wolf, come on AEG, give us a magazine

 

[Bagpuss]

1. Four Mini-Games per year. This allows us the opportunity to spend more pages supporting previously published Mini-Games as well as other stuff like Star Wars, the RPGA, d20 Modern, etc.

Great while I like the mini games I actually got more use out of Poly when it was slim and had articles and maps.

2. Poly now in back. The "flipped" format caused more trouble than it was worth.

Hmm like having to print an additional version of the magazine to keep US Postal happy and the loss of revenue linked to the prime ad space on the rear cover? Much as I liked the flipped format it's a sensible change to reduce the costs and increase the returns.

3. I'm killing the subscriber section.

Good, never liked the idea that by supporting a local shop I got robbed by lossing pages and it also means you can have a single print run of the magazine which must reduce costs.

4. More than 2 adventures per issue.

Great move the adventures are the main most people by the magazine and the main complaint the 'Dungeon-only' fanatics had.

5. The Dungeon/Poly split will no longer be absolute, and instead will depend upon the material we've got on hand.

Sensible but if you do shrink the Poly section to just a few maps you can bet you'll lose some customers.

The other stuff I'll have to wait and see how the new associate editor helps, and for 102. Although it is reasuring that you are hiring additional staff.

 

[Belen]

To the Poly complainers.

OF COURSE, they need to make the Dungeon crowd happy. It's like 70-30 in favor of Dungeon. Just like most people play DnD. It was stupid to think that the majority of gamers, who do not play in the RPGA and do not play other games than DnD, would want content others than DnD adventures.

I'll bet their sales go up because they are cutting Poly back.

And it is about time!

 

[dsfriii]

Thanks for listening. I will start buying again.