[Poly] What's happening to Polyhedron/Dungeon?
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The_Gneech
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andrew said:
Well, Dragon used to have a sub-magazine called Ares that covered Star Frontiers, Marvel Super-Heroes, and Top Secret ...
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Henry
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Simplicity said:
I haven't seen that issue yet, but I love the idea! It's the kind of stuff that I always break out in my adventures that I write up for home use. That's the info that a DM (in my opinion) needs to have at their fingertips when setting ambiance in a locale.
Erik, thank you for dropping this news to us. You can't please everybody, but you apparently have a lot of Dungeon die-hards returning, for an issue or three if nothing else.
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Why not just get rid of that artificial distinction altogether and call it one magazine, Dungeon, that has a monthly feature called Polyhedron featuring bits from the d20 world? I'd rather have one real magazine than two fake ones. They share the same binding after all!
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That's sort of what we're doing.
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But that's just me I guess. Out of curiosity, does anyone know of any other double magazines in one like Dungeon/Poly? I'm sure there must be a few out there, but I'm totally ignorant of them.
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The only one I read regularly is a comic magazine called Alter Ego, which has a Fawcett Collectors of America newsletter on the flipside.
--Erik
Why not just get rid of that artificial distinction altogether and call it one magazine, Dungeon, that has a monthly feature called Polyhedron featuring bits from the d20 world? I'd rather have one real magazine than two fake ones. They share the same binding after all!
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That's sort of what we're doing.
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But that's just me I guess. Out of curiosity, does anyone know of any other double magazines in one like Dungeon/Poly? I'm sure there must be a few out there, but I'm totally ignorant of them.
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The only one I read regularly is a comic magazine called Alter Ego, which has a Fawcett Collectors of America newsletter on the flipside.
--Erik
Ranger REG, Kenpo Wolf, etc.
Although Poly will be shrinking a little, I'm committed to making it the best I possibly can. I've edited something like 30 issues of Polyhedron in three different incarnations, so it's an understatement to say that I'm a fan of the magazine.
During the past few months, when our in-boxes and these message boards have been choked with vitriol from long-time Dungeon fans, posts from you and others like you have saved more than one of my days from slipping into depression. I'm not going to let you down by publishing crap in the magazine, and will do my best to make every issue of Poly as jam-packed with cool d20 stuff as I possibly can, even if there are fewer pages now and again.
Some day, the magazine will probably spin off into its own entity again, which will give everyone what they want. Dungeon fans will get a thicker Dungeon with more adventures, and Poly fans will get a big thick magazine filled with d20 goodness. I'll probably be involved in one or both, provided I don't completely crash and burn before then (hasn't happened yet!).
But the timing's not right for that move right now. Right now, both magazines need each other.
It won't always be that way, and I suspect you'll eventually get a lot more d20 content for your buck. But for Poly to remain strong as a section (which we need in order to spin it off eventually), I've got to make decisions about the health of the overall magazine, which includes the Dungeon part, too. Right now, that means cutting down somewhat on Polyhedron pages. I don't know what it'll mean in a year.
But I'm not simply going to abandon Polyhedron or let it fade away.
--Erik
Although Poly will be shrinking a little, I'm committed to making it the best I possibly can. I've edited something like 30 issues of Polyhedron in three different incarnations, so it's an understatement to say that I'm a fan of the magazine.
During the past few months, when our in-boxes and these message boards have been choked with vitriol from long-time Dungeon fans, posts from you and others like you have saved more than one of my days from slipping into depression. I'm not going to let you down by publishing crap in the magazine, and will do my best to make every issue of Poly as jam-packed with cool d20 stuff as I possibly can, even if there are fewer pages now and again.
Some day, the magazine will probably spin off into its own entity again, which will give everyone what they want. Dungeon fans will get a thicker Dungeon with more adventures, and Poly fans will get a big thick magazine filled with d20 goodness. I'll probably be involved in one or both, provided I don't completely crash and burn before then (hasn't happened yet!).
But the timing's not right for that move right now. Right now, both magazines need each other.
It won't always be that way, and I suspect you'll eventually get a lot more d20 content for your buck. But for Poly to remain strong as a section (which we need in order to spin it off eventually), I've got to make decisions about the health of the overall magazine, which includes the Dungeon part, too. Right now, that means cutting down somewhat on Polyhedron pages. I don't know what it'll mean in a year.
But I'm not simply going to abandon Polyhedron or let it fade away.
--Erik
EarthsShadow
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Erik:
I like most of the changes, but as a minority I really did like the flip side effect you had going. I really knew which part of the magazine I was looking at, and I liked having two covers instead of one and a stupid add of something I would most likely never use.
Another thing you should just consider is increasing the size of each issue by 10 to 20 pages and/or get rid of some of the many adds inside them, and use them more for the reasons we purchase the magazines.
Oh, and someday hire somebody to write a full blown campaign setting book on Iron Lords of Jupiter, which is IMO the best mini-game you have released yet and one that should definately be further developed, as should Spelljammer and Pulp Heroes (your Pulp Heroes article in the last one really makes me want to run one now).
All in all, your chages saved another customer in me, and I am thankful for it. (As a non subscriber, I really hated the subscriber only adventures, but that's me).
I like most of the changes, but as a minority I really did like the flip side effect you had going. I really knew which part of the magazine I was looking at, and I liked having two covers instead of one and a stupid add of something I would most likely never use.
Another thing you should just consider is increasing the size of each issue by 10 to 20 pages and/or get rid of some of the many adds inside them, and use them more for the reasons we purchase the magazines.
Oh, and someday hire somebody to write a full blown campaign setting book on Iron Lords of Jupiter, which is IMO the best mini-game you have released yet and one that should definately be further developed, as should Spelljammer and Pulp Heroes (your Pulp Heroes article in the last one really makes me want to run one now).
All in all, your chages saved another customer in me, and I am thankful for it. (As a non subscriber, I really hated the subscriber only adventures, but that's me).
Darrin Drader
Explorer
Erik Mona said:
That's good to hear. Poly was an experiement, and in my opinion, a worthwhile one. Some of the minigamaes, such as Spelljammer and Omega World, are extremely good and have been well received by most. I've used both of them in my own games and I look forward to seeing more new stuff in the future.
I've seen figures from other magazines that print in color that suggest that cutting advertising to a minimum would increase the cost of the periodical to close to $20 an issue. Dungeon may not inflate that much due to the larger readership, but it would still be signifficant enough for all of its subscribers to be up in arms again and start cancelling subscriptions. While I wouldn't mind seeing 20 more pages myself, I don't mind reading many of the ads, and they really are necessary.
JoeGKushner
Adventurer
BelenUmeria said:
That's pretty much what I hear too. Polyhedron was a tool for the RPGA. The RPGA doesn't publish it, Piazo does. Perhaps the RPGA should take over Poly and make it a seperate magazine again? More newsletter like in b & w like it originally was?
Then again, Dungeon used to be much smaller in b & w too.
Still, more Dungeon in my Dungeon magazine is a good thing.
For subscribers, how about bonus material on the web?
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