Polymorph on +ECL creatures

[Arcanus]

If you cast polymorph other on a creature that has +ECLs like Svirfneblin, Duergar, Drow and Saurials that changes them into halflings or whatever, are they now a +ECL creature?

The drow for instance would lose darkvision, SR, spell like abilities etc.... and would now be human or an ordinary creature.
Would this new creature now have level adjustment penalties or would they no longer be considered a powerfull character race?

 

[Xarlen]

Are you sure that when you poly something, it loses it's special abilities?

I realize you don't get the special abilities of something you change into, but do you Lose those you Have when you change?

 

[Arcanus]

oops, didn't re-read the spell description before I asked.
It just popped into my head so I posted it. Still not sure about the spell.

 

[Gromm]

Anyway you look at it, they would still be Drow under the effects of a polymorph other spell. If someone curses you it doesn't change your character levels (effective or otherwise), even though you are now weaker than you were.
Your character is still a Drow, he just has a bad spell on him. When its removed he's back to normal.

As far as losing abilities, I'd say a strong yes, unless you can reason why a dragon polymorphed into a goldfish could still fly and breath fire. You do gain the forms abilities also (ie you can swim as a fish, fly as a bird, etc), just not Supernatural abilities and the like. I don't believe darkvision falls into that category so you'd probably gain darkvision as a human poly'd into say an orc. As an orc you'd lose darkvision since humans don't have it.

 

[HeavyG]

I believe you lose your supernatural abilities but not your extraordinary abilities.

Thus, the gold dragon would lose its breath weapon but not its darkvision.

 

[Volefisk]

I believe you lose your supernatural abilities but not your extraordinary abilities.

Thus, the gold dragon would lose its breath weapon but not its darkvision.

Correct. This just came up in a game I'm in, and required some rather close reading of the rules:

Poly Other from the SRD: "The subject retains its own type (for example, "humanoid"), extraordinary abilities, spells, and spell-like abilities, but not its supernatural abilities. The subject can cast spells for which it has components. It needs a humanlike voice for verbal components and humanlike hands for somatic components. The subject does not gain the spell-like abilities of its new form. The subject does not gain the supernatural abilities (such as breath weapons and gaze attacks) or the extraordinary abilities of the new creature."

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