Pregen Defenses

[Sadrik]

I think that I have all of the right modifiers. There is one mod I don't know and that is the Warlock's +1 to AC. Also there are several guesses in here, any ideas on them.

Halfling Paladin
AC 20 (10 +8 for armor +2 for shield)
Fort 13 (10 +2 for STR +1 for class)
Ref 14 (10 +1 for DEX +2 for shield +1 for class)
Will 14 (10 +3 for CHA +1 for class)//been errata'd

Human Cleric
AC 16 (10 +6 for armor)
Fort 13 (10 +2 for STR +1 for human)
Ref 12 (10 +1 for INT +1 for human)
Will 17 (10 +4 for WIS +2 for class +1 for human)

Dwarf Fighter
AC 19 (10 +7 for armor +2 for shield)
Fort 16 (10 +4 CON +2 class)
Ref 13 (10 +1 DEX +2 shield)
Will 12 (10 +2 WIS)

Eladrin Ranger
AC 17 (10 +3 for armor +4 for DEX)
Fort 13 (10 +2 for STR +1 for class)
Ref 15 (10 +4 for DEX +1 for class)
Will 13 (10 +2 for WIS +1 for class)

Tiefling Wizard
AC 15 (10 +0 for armor +5 for INT)
Fort 10 (10)
Ref 15 (10 +5 for INT)
Will 13 (10 +1 for CHA +2 for class)

Half-Elf Warlock
AC 15 (10 +2 for armor +2 for INT +1 for ?)
Fort 13 (10 +3 for CON)
Ref 13 (10 +2 for INT +1 for class)
Will 15 (10 +4 for CHA +1 for class)

 

[Sadrik]

So where does the +1 AC for the Warlock come from?

 

[shadowguidex]

I'm quite certain that you're wrong on the armor bonuses. In your scheme there is a +1, 2, 3....6,7,8. Where's the 4 and 5? I think it's more like that:

Cloth +0
Leather +2
Hide +3
Chain +4
Scale +5
Plate +6

 

[keterys]

Heavy armors don't give you Dex/Int to AC, so you'd expect them to be a few points higher.

Accordingly, 0/2/3, 6/7/8 seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'm very curious if there's a good reason for casters not to take the ability to wear leather armor, though.

 

[Gargazon]

I'm quite certain that you're wrong on the armor bonuses. In your scheme there is a +1, 2, 3....6,7,8. Where's the 4 and 5? I think it's more like that:

Cloth +0
Leather +2
Hide +3
Chain +4
Scale +5
Plate +6

I think the original poster is correct, as your values don't make sense given the pregen characters. I also don't see why you have to have a +4 and +5 armour.

 

[ZombieRoboNinja]

Heavy armors don't give you Dex/Int to AC, so you'd expect them to be a few points higher.

Accordingly, 0/2/3, 6/7/8 seems pretty reasonable to me.

I'm very curious if there's a good reason for casters not to take the ability to wear leather armor, though.

Apparently wizards are the only casters who CAN'T wear leather right off the bat. I guess the question is whether it's worth a feat to get an extra 2 AC for your wizard, who shouldn't be getting hit by melee in the first place...

 

[bagginswagon]

Size Bonus?

Shouldn't the halfling Paladin getting an extra +2 AC for being 'small'?

 

[Lurker59]

Another possibility is that leather is +3 and hide is +4. The armor spread from the PHB states,"Hide armor can bind and slightly hinder your precision, but it's light enough that it doesn't affect your speed." Looking over the ranger pre-gen is seems apparent that hide armor doesn't affect skill checks so it seems plausible that some sort of dex cap or penalty to AC exists.

 

[Gargazon]

Shouldn't the halfling Paladin getting an extra +2 AC for being 'small'?

From what I can see on the pregen sheet, the Halfling gains no bonuses or penalties for being small. None!

He doesn't seem to be gaining any bonus to hit (I assume a Shortsword is a prof 3 weapon), no bonuses to his defences, no bonuses to skills... Apparently being small now just means you're small

That's not going to make the simulationists happy.

 

[small pumpkin man]

From what I can see on the pregen sheet, the Halfling gains no bonuses or penalties for being small. None!

He doesn't seem to be gaining any bonus to hit (I assume a Shortsword is a prof 3 weapon), no bonuses to his defences, no bonuses to skills... Apparently being small now just means you're small

That's not going to make the simulationists happy.

He is using a shortsword like a longsword.