price this item for me

Vorith

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Okay this is just one of those magic items that are kinda useless but at the same time very helpful.Okay here it goes...



This plain looking chest has the ability to change currency into other types of currency (gold into platinum, platinum into silver etc.) but you can't get more than you put in obviously.The chest can only hold up to 5000 coins (if you put 500 platinum in the chest and expect 50000 silver in the morning you will be disapointed).The change from one type to another happens over an 8 hour period (perfect to do while sleeping or traveling).You can do any kind of mixing (500 gold into 40 platinum and 1000 silver).
Now all I need is a price.

I think thats about it...any questions just ask,I feel like I'm forgetting something
 

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That's a neat idea. For fun though I'd have the chest take a 1% cut that secretly gets teleported back to the tower of the wizard who made the chest.

as for cost, I'd go with something like 7,500 gp...but that;s a flat out guess and based on nothing other then it sounds sorta good.
 



Vorith said:
c'mon I need more input!

OK. I don't see anything else to base this off of, so let's look at it's utility. Basically it can make change OR combine currency into more valuable currency. Making change has the net effect of taking up more space and weight, whereas combining coins into more valuable currency will help things to take up less space and weight. So the second is the most "useful", and what to look at for pricing an item.

That's the effect of taking up less space, which I'll equate in power levels to extradimensional storage. Handy Haversack and the lowest level Bag of Holding are both 2000. This takes a while to "work", and I might be tempted to give a discount from that 2k price tag. Say 25% off... for 1500 gold. That's decent enough to be worth making in the fist place, and cheap enough for a mage to make, it'd only cost 750 gold to make... It would also have a very good synergy *with* extradimensional storage, so I don't think it should be any cheaper than that.
 

This doesn't have anything to do with extra-dimensional spaces. It has everything to do with intelligentyl converting coins into other denominations. That's limited wish to me.

I'll cost it out with the rules in the Artificer's Handbook. So, it'll look kind of complicated, but I assure you it isn't. In the end, you get a cost based on sound concepts, as opposed to say, Crothian's method. :)

Limited wish is a 7th level spell with a casting time of 1 standard action. Minimum caster level is 13th.

This item casts a very specific version of limited wish that takes 8 hours to cast, and can be usable once per day. Furthermore, it has no XP cost.

command-word activated, 1 use per day (4 +4 slots)
spell slots 8
-1 slot (item is bulky)
-4 slots (low utility)
+2 slots (no XP cost)
-2 slots (increased casting time)
+1 slots (item has basic intelligence)

So, the chest is about 1 cubic feet in size. The spell is limited in scope to just monetary conversions, but has the added benefit of no XP cost, has a vastly increased casting time, but also has basic intelligence. Because it needs to know if you're wanting to convert gold into platinum or silver. It just can't assume one or the other. Unless you say that it always converts to a higher form, unless you place the highest form in it, and then it converts it to silver. So, it would be silver->gold->platinum->silver ad nauseum. Doing it that way would be somewhat more annoying, and could have the +1 cost taken away. But, for now, we'll leave it.

That yields:
10gp(caster level + spell level -1) * number of spell slots ^2
10gp(13 + 7 - 1) * (8-1-4+2-2+1)^2 =
10gp(19) * 4^2 = 190*16 = 3,040gp

That's creation cost
Market price is creation cost *2 which is 6,080gp.

The item also requires the artificer to be able to cast 4 limited wish spells via his own personal power (i.e., no scrolls), but he can use 8th level slots, for example.

You can reduce the cost by making it a little more stupid applying the silver->gold->platinum-> silver method to it. The cost for that would be:
190gp*9 = 1,710gp or a market price of 3,420gp.

There's your price.

And yes, that's a pretty nifty little item.
 


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