Proposal: Arcane Power
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nerdytenor
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+1
It can be hard to forget sometimes while in the thick of discussions such as these that this is a game we are working with, not a legal system. IMO, we shouldn't concern ourselves with problems that don't yet exist. From the high quality of much of what goes on here, I have a lot of faith in the community and don't feel that we need every last uber-munchkin-combo spelled out explicitly.
This is a game without a goal and without winners - unless certain players are making things un-fun for certain other players (or DMs), it's best to just stay out of the way.
FWIW,
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stonegod
Spawn of Khyber/LEB Judge
Just a bump, now that ENW is back.I'm going to be selfish and just ask for everything Dang't wants (feats and Storm Sorcerer) to be approved soon.You folks can argue about the rest.
elecgraystone
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Well there is a big difference between 'possible misuse/abuse' and issues that we have identified and gm/judges have already said that they don't think that is should work the RAW way. We seem to be in general agreement that the movement from grease shouldn't trigger new attack. How is putting that in any different that telling dark warlocks that they need player consent to use powers that hurt other players? Both are changes to the character that the character should know before to makes his choices. How is it ok to inform new players in one case but leave them in the dark with the other?
My position is clear. I think it best to have everything in the open and NOT surprise people after they have made their character. I feel that doing otherwise will only lead to problems later when people find out during play that things don't work as the book reads.
That said, I'm finished arguing. This is just the kind of situation I was trying to avoid by asking for a ruling of grease. Do whatever you want. There isn't any reason to hold up things. Go and vote on what Stonegod wants.
stonegod
Spawn of Khyber/LEB Judge
So, to get this ball rolling (and so Dang't can be updated ), how but I propose the following (since I started this thread):
- Proposal: Accept all of Arcane Power except Grease, Illusory Wall, and Planar Gateway.
Folks can propose separate things for the other three, though only Grease is of a primary concern right now (as it is is the only power anyway can take at L4W levels).
), how but I propose the following (since I started this thread):- Proposal: Accept all of Arcane Power except Grease, Illusory Wall, and Planar Gateway.
Folks can propose separate things for the other three, though only Grease is of a primary concern right now (as it is is the only power anyway can take at L4W levels).
Ozymandias79
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That I vote YES to
Ozy
Ozy
Dunamin
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JoeNotCharles
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I vote YES to StoneGod's proposal.
And a couple of my own independant proposals:
I believe this will mean that there are two versions of the Illusion powers, and both are legal. So I also propose that if Stonegod's proposal passes, we ban the Dragon magazine Illusions article except for Illusory Wall.
I propose that we pass Grease with the amendment "the slide does not trigger an attack from the same Grease spell again". (Does this mean I can vote no to covaithe's proposal, but not yet to my own?)
I also propose that we pass the Compendium version of Planar Gateway.
And a couple of my own independant proposals:
I believe this will mean that there are two versions of the Illusion powers, and both are legal. So I also propose that if Stonegod's proposal passes, we ban the Dragon magazine Illusions article except for Illusory Wall.
I propose that we pass Grease with the amendment "the slide does not trigger an attack from the same Grease spell again". (Does this mean I can vote no to covaithe's proposal, but not yet to my own?)
I also propose that we pass the Compendium version of Planar Gateway.
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