Protection from Evil

[Hypersmurf]

Aha! At last, Hypersmurf, I've got you, and nobody can tell me otherwise!

Weird

Nevertheless, it still works - berries (such as mandarins), and citrus fruits with orange skin (such as mandarins).



-Hyp.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Do you think a dominated character would elect to make a saving throw against protection from evil? Does the effect compel the target in any way to try and avoid events that would break the spell?

Possibly. Simply being dominated does not require the victim to do so. The victim is only required to follow the dominator's commands. He isn't compelled to take extra action outside of given commands. So normally, the victim isn't going to try and save vs. the Protection from Evil.

However, a wily dominator might command his victim to "do everything in your power to remain under my control." In which case the victim would be required to attempt to save vs. Protection from Evil.

 

[ThirdWizard]

Possibly. Simply being dominated does not require the victim to do so. The victim is only required to follow the dominator's commands. He isn't compelled to take extra action outside of given commands. So normally, the victim isn't going to try and save vs. the Protection from Evil.

However, a wily dominator might command his victim to "do everything in your power to remain under my control." In which case the victim would be required to attempt to save vs. Protection from Evil.

Makes sense to me. This is about to come up, and the dominator in this particular case will be an orc vampire with an 8 Int and 8 Wis, so I don't think he would qualify as wily.

 

[meleeguy]

I would argue that confusion is supressed as one of the definitions of control is "to hold in restraint, check".

http://www.answers.com/control&r=67

edit: Added the following;

One of the noun forms provides an even better basis for argument - "A restraining device, measure, or limit".

 

[Infiniti2000]

I can eat berries and citrus fruits with orange skin, such as mandarins.

I'm not restricting the berries to those with orange skin. All berries; orange-skinned citrus.

It can be read both ways. A FAQ is specifically intended to clear up such ambiguity.

Agreed! I'm just stating (perhaps the obvious) that the wording is unclear and based upon my knowledge with English grammar, the phrase after the comma refers to the entire previous conjunction (i.e. item 1 and item 2). Anyway, that's the way I read it, but I understand your points.

In arguing against my own case, the biggest problem is that I can come up with possibly only one example of an enchantment (charm) that qualifies (in the core). So, perhaps it could be said that at least the intent is for PfE to work against all enchantment (charm) spells. I don't like that, though, because then IMO PfE becomes way too strong. It's already way too strong IMO.