Question Concerning Behavior And Rules

[moritheil]

Again, iron clad to you is not iron clad to everyone else. The poster is allowed to think that this is iron clad. And you can disagree, but my statement starts you down the road of exploring their proof.

Suppose a poster tells me that a Sage Advice article lets him know that Monks have combat reflexes automatically, without needing to take the feat. I quote the SRD and state that he is wrong. Is there something wrong with my behavior? I already know the SRD monk entry reasonably well, so I don't need to consult the Sage Advice article. Even if I did consult this theoretical Sage Advice article, it would have no bearing on the issue itself, as I do not acknowledge that as canon in the way that the SRD is.

Asking for a link to the Sage Advice article would therefore be meaningless and a waste of time.

 

[Crothian]

But how will I know, unless I ask? If they don't want to talk about it, they can simply say, "I prefer not to talk about such matters," or ignore my post.

I don't see how I can be held accountable for knowing who out there is dyslexic (and therefore, by your statement, not offended) and who is not (and therefore, by your statement, offended.) The question itself is value-neutral. If you ask me if I'm dyslexic, I will reply no, not to my knowledge. I've been asked that before off-handedly in real life, without any apparent reason, and I was not offended in the least.

There are some questions it is rude to ask people. Not all questions are rude all the time, there is a place for every question to be asked but the message boards are probably not that place. But again this is missing the point.

 

[moritheil]

You are focusing on the wrong thing. It is not that some mental conditions are okay. It is the fact you are implying that only someone with a mental ciondition could post what they posted, and that is insulting. Calling some one who is a dyslexic a dyslexic is okay, calling someone who is not one a dyslexic is not. And by asking the question if they are, is seen as the same as calling someone that.

In my game, a player bought two war dogs. They died in combat. The player smirked and remarked that I must be a cat lover. I own neither dogs nor cats, so the suggestion was baseless, but I was not offended. Nor do I think it would be offensive to most individuals. The only reason that anyone would be offended at being asked if they were a cat lover were if they thought it was for some reason shameful, a mark of inferiority, or otherwise bad.

The only reason that anyone would be offended at being asked if they were dyslexic were if they thought that dyslexia was shameful, a mark of inferiority, or otherwise bad. Since we have eliminated that, it remains that logically there is nothing offensive in asking if someone is dyslexic.

EDIT: In the exact example of discourse above, I was emphatically NOT implying that they could only post something like that if they were dyslexic. There were THREE possibilities I offered.

1. Not a native English speaker
2. Dyslexia or other mental disability
3. Mistyping.

I do not see how you can look at those three distinct possibilities and accuse me of implying that they could ONLY be dyslexic.

 

[Crothian]

Suppose a poster tells me that a Sage Advice article lets him know that Monks have combat reflexes automatically, without needing to take the feat. I quote the SRD and state that he is wrong. Is there something wrong with my behavior? I already know the SRD monk entry reasonably well, so I don't need to consult the Sage Advice article. Even if I did consult this theoretical Sage Advice article, it would have no bearing on the issue itself, as I do not acknowledge that as canon in the way that the SRD is.

Asking for a link to the Sage Advice article would therefore be meaningless and a waste of time.

Would you stop picking apart every little thing and finding an example that doesn't work with the solution given? That doesn't prove anything. I was giving an example based on the facts at hand, so ya if you change the facts the solution is going to change. And you are also changing the subject.

 

[Crothian]

The only reason that anyone would be offended at being asked if they were dyslexic were if they thought that dyslexia was shameful, a mark of inferiority, or otherwise bad. Since we have eliminated that, it remains that logically there is nothing offensive in asking if someone is dyslexic.

You don't get it and I'm done trying to explain it to you.

 

[moritheil]

Would you stop picking apart every little thing and finding an example that doesn't work with the solution given? That doesn't prove anything. I was giving an example based on the facts at hand, so ya if you change the facts the solution is going to change. And you are also changing the subject.

Well, I'm sorry you feel that way, but the situations are identical to me, and I'm trying to explain it to you. May I remind you that you are the one who initiated discussion on specific examples of what else I could have done?

 

[Spell]

I asked because it falls within the range of possible reasons for stating that you can prove something, being asked nicely to prove it, and being instantly and disproportionately hostile towards the one who asks when it turns out that you can't. You will note that I stated it as one of several possibilities that spanned that range. Furthermore, the purpose of the question, as I have stated above, is to observe the response.

While I appreciate the comments from well-intentioned EN World posters, this post is in fact directed at Moderators, and I await their word.

there is one thing i have learnt so far, on these boards. if somebody is being incredibly asinine, they are not going to listen to you, no matter how good your point is. that MIGHT happen, but i have to say that is a very rare occurence.
if you point things at people nicely, and they start reacting aggressively, just point out that your wasn't an attack and leave them be. you will save yourself a lot of time and troubles.

i usually keep replying them only if i felt personally touched by their wrong ideas to begin with. in that case, while trying to be as polite as i can, i will state my point time and time and time again.
but these cases are very rare, thankfully!

 

[diaglo]

i think Morrus, the owner of the site, gave you at least a word or a dozen.

 

[moritheil]

i think Morrus, the owner of the site, gave you at least a word or a dozen.

Independently, I do not have a problem with the assertion that it is very rude to call someone dyslexic on the boards. I may not agree, but I understand the the statement. Nor do I independently have a problem with the concept that there is no stigma associated with dyslexia. I happen to agree.

What I have a problem with is the fact that they are said to both be true, and I cannot see how it is logically possible for them to both be true.

So I would like to be told that one of these statements is false, for the purposes of the EN World forums. I suspect that it is the latter, because people are adamant about the former and appear to avoid confronting the latter head-on. But I would like to be clear on the matter.

 

[Spell]

Okay, my question regarding his actions is - as a normal poster, does Mouseferatu have the authority to demand such things?

i think he does. as everybody else.
it is very bad to see name calling appear. ESPECIALLY if you were following whatever conversation was going on.
i had that appening last night, and the thread is now closed (possibly because i signaled a post to the mods). that makes me upset, because i was enjoying the conversation. but it's better that way than having to scroll through pages of "you goblin flatulence!" and "you orc armpit!"