The only really good way to render a saiyan without having ECL-20 or being hideously stupidly munched would probably require the use of the M&M system.Anubis said:I never said I was planning on publishing anything nor did I ever say I was trying to get money for this. That doesn't mean that I can't consider this serious work. I'm trying to make a true and good and accurate conversion of Saiyans, that's all.