Questions that came up in game.

[frankthedm]

The ruleset allows for other attacks to be directed at other valid targets. One of the big reason you have to take iterative attacks in order. As long as the player did not cast the dice for all the attacks at once at the first foe, the following attacks can be directed at other targets.

Manyshot does not have this option however.

 

[Aeson]

No one has heard of making a honest mistake when it comes to rules? I never claimed to be perfect. This wasn't house rules, it was misreading the rules. On my part or the players part is what I've been trying to figure out.

The ruleset allows for other attacks to be directed at other valid targets. One of the big reason you have to take iterative attacks in order. As long as the player did not cast the dice for all the attacks at once at the first foe, the following attacks can be directed at other targets.

Manyshot does not have this option however.

Let me ask this. The attack rolls are rolled at the same time. When she sees a hit drops the target she wanted to move to the next. Would that be any different?

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

I never claimed to be perfect.

You really need to change your custom title.

Let me ask this. The attack rolls are rolled at the same time. When she sees a hit drops the target she wanted to move to the next. Would that be any different?

The rules don't say anything on that. I'd allow it, because if anything, the player probably did that in the first place to speed up combat. Taking a hard stance like that would only encourage the player to roll one attack at a time, just to not potentially get screwed over, and make his/her turn take longer.

 

[frankthedm]

Let me ask this. The attack rolls are rolled at the same time. When she sees a hit drops the target she wanted to move to the next. Would that be any different?

You choose your target before rolling the attack.

 

[Michael Silverbane]

You choose your target before rolling the attack.

There's really no reason to do this, especially if you are using a time-saving method like rolling all attacks and damage at the same time.

 

[irdeggman]

There's really no reason to do this, especially if you are using a time-saving method like rolling all attacks and damage at the same time.

You need to specify which die belongs to which attack so you can incorporate the appropriate attack modifiers.

Also PHB pg 143

After you first attack, you can decide to take a move action instead of making your remaining attacks, depending on how the first attack turns out.

Sure seems to say that you roll them 1 attack at a time - or at least the first attack roll is done first and then you can decide what to do with the remaining attacks after the results are known.

Rules Compendium pg 17

As you make your attacks, you specify your targets. You can see how the ealrlier attacks turn out before assigning the later ones.

Looks like you are supposed to specify each target as you make the attack and you must do them from highest bonus to lowest. (RC pg 17 and PHB pg 143)

 

[Dyson Logos]

The DM is wrong when he deviates from the written rules after implicitly or explicitly informing the players that they are the rules of his game.

That kind of rhetoric annoys me to no end.

"If you don't run your games by the RAW and don't inform the players of the fact that you have not memorized every rule in the book, you are a bad DM"

Why not just tell him flat out that he's a bad DM because he made a bad call in-game? After all, good DMs never ever make mistakes.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

That kind of rhetoric annoys me to no end.

"If you don't run your games by the RAW and don't inform the players of the fact that you have not memorized every rule in the book, you are a bad DM"

Why not just tell him flat out that he's a bad DM because he made a bad call in-game? After all, good DMs never ever make mistakes.

Funny, people defending people who are undeniably WRONG and who refuse to be humble enough to admit it annoys ME to no end.

I never said he's a bad DM. It's ok to make mistakes, I do all the time. And I admit it, and I apologize. And I try to not make the same mistake again. I even said it was ok to make houserules, as long as the players have fair warning. If a DM told me I wasn't allowed to ever multitarget with a ranged weapon, I wouldn't play an archer, and if that rule was in-stated mid-campaign, I would demand to make a new character...but it's perfectly fine for a DM to do that.

Go untwist your panties and stop putting words in my mouth.

Both of you, go read my post on the next page. ~PCat

 

[Vegepygmy]

That kind of rhetoric annoys me to no end.

"If you don't run your games by the RAW and don't inform the players of the fact that you have not memorized every rule in the book, you are a bad DM"

Why not just tell him flat out that he's a bad DM because he made a bad call in-game? After all, good DMs never ever make mistakes.

Tsk, tsk. -1 XP for strawmanning.

 

[Aeson]

Can we keep it on topic? And the topic is not my skills as a DM. You don't have enough information to make that judgement.

It seems irdeggman has the same reading of the rule as I do. Attacks are made against 1 target unless specified before rolling. I have no problem with rolling at the same time to save time but you need to inform before hand what you intend to do with your attacks.