Quick question: Full attack routine of a dragon monk

[Dark Dragon]

Hi folks,

just a quick question: what are the attack boni of a young adult silver dragon monk 7 that uses a flurry of blows? The dragon has 19 racial HD and 7 monk HD, STR 23, and is large.

My basic calculations:
19 dragon HD = BAB +19
7 monk levels = BAB + 5, with flurry +4 instead
STR 23 = + 6
size = -1

Sum with flurry = +28

Damage Unarmed Strike: 2d6+6 (instead of 1d8 due to size L). He can use any body part for the attack (using the Dragon Style, of course )

Now let's go for a full attack with a flurry of blows:

Unarmed attacks: +28/+28, 2d6+6 damage each, reach 5 ft. True?
Bite: +23, 2d6+6 dmg, reach 10 ft. True?
Claws: +18/+18, 1d8+3 dmg, reach 5 ft. True? Or +23/+23 because of being a secondary weapon?
Wings: attacks as claws, 1d6+3 dmg, reach 5 ft. True?
Tail: attack as 1 claw, 1d8+9 dmg, reach 5 ft. True?

Thanks for input!

 

[Dark Dragon]

Just a bump... I guess that a similar question was asked sometime ago, maybe about a druid/monk and his flurry of blows during wildshape (?)

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

The (non-)interaction between unarmed combat and natural attacks is explained here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fc/fc20010803

 

[the Jester]

IIRC a creature may use either its unarmed strike routine or its natural attack routine, but may not mix and match.

 

[Dandu]

IIRC a creature may use either its unarmed strike routine or its natural attack routine, but may not mix and match.

Half-Dragon entry:

Full Attack
A half-dragon fighting without weapons uses both claws and its bite when making a full attack. If armed with a weapon, it usually uses the weapon as its primary attack and its bite as a natural secondary attack. If it has a hand free, it uses a claw as an additional natural secondary attack.

Language similar to that in the Half-Fiend entry. Seems that a Half-Dragon monk would be able to follow his unarmed strike attacks with natural weapon attacks as long as he doesn't use the same limbs.

 

[the Jester]

Half-Dragon entry:



Language similar to that in the Half-Fiend entry. Seems that a Half-Dragon monk would be able to follow his unarmed strike attacks with natural weapon attacks as long as he doesn't use the same limbs.

Hmm, I'm not sure that this would apply, but it might. Unarmed strikes are weird. They do count as weapons, so you may be right for half-dragons et. al.

That said, the OP is about a dragon, not a half-dragon.

 

[Dark Dragon]

Yes, that is what I thought as well

(Psi)SeveredHead's link and the example of WotC's thri-kreen monk says that it may use its unarmed strike PLUS the bite OR make armed attacks ONLY. This is contradictive to the half-dragon example that Dandu gave...

Hrrrmm, I am inclined to consider attacks with natural weapons somewhat similar to unarmed attacks (an attack with a fist is an attack with a natural weapon AND it is an unarmed attack!).

About the dragon monk and the half-dragon monk: both are of the dragon type, both have natural attacks, both may use weapons (a dragon may use an "opposable" sword, for example). So, from the view of rules for half-dragons, I'd suppose that these rules apply for dragons as well...