D&D 5E (2014) Quick way to fix class balance if you don't use the assumed adventuring day

[FrogReaver]

Because output per encounter isn't the right metric. It's really output per adventuring day, or the same thing stated differently average output per action.

What I said still stands and it means one cannot balance short and long adventuring days simply by scaling short rest powers and other occurrences like crits by a set factor (kudos to you for trying to account for crits). Because short adventuring days feature harder encounter then caster resources become more efficient/stronger due to large aoes and control, things martials generally don’t get much of.

What you are suggesting is an improvement. I highly recommend it for anyone experiencing intra class balance issues due to adventure day length. Just know it won’t fully solve for the reason I mentioned above.

If it helps, the concept of nonlinear system should explain most of what I’m saying.

 

[Blue]

What I said still stands and it means one cannot balance short and long adventuring days simply by scaling short rest powers and other occurrences like crits by a set factor (kudos to you for trying to account for crits). Because short adventuring days feature harder encounter then caster resources become more efficient/stronger due to large aoes and control, things martials generally don’t get much of.

What you are suggesting is an improvement. I highly recommend it for anyone experiencing intra class balance issues due to adventure day length. Just know it won’t fully solve for the reason I mentioned above.

If it helps, the concept of nonlinear system should explain most of what I’m saying.

I think you're confusing me with another poster. I didn't talk about short rests nor crits.

 

[FrogReaver]

I think you're confusing me with another poster. I didn't talk about short rests nor crits.

I am sorry.

 

[Scott Christian]

Or use Hit Dice until they have a long, safe, comfortable rest. You can even give them the: "Every time you heal, you get the healing plus one of your hit dice." But you do not get your hit dice back until you are safe and relaxing for a few days.

I really wish the new DM's Guide had more alternatives like the ones listed in this thread. It would have really helped certain playstyles to have "official" guidelines.